120 Sport Jet Bogs/Cuts out WOT

funpilot

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From about 3/4 throttle on, I can't get my boat to run. It bogs and bucks and wants to quit. I back off the throttle and it smooths out. s/n OE122700 in a Sugar Sand Mirage. The motor and boat were submerged a few years ago (free boat from brother in law!!!), and last summer I rebuilt the engine, new pistons, built up the crank, bored out cylinders, cleaned carbs. Reed valves were good.<br /><br />Ran great on the break in fuel/oil mix of 100:1 with 100:1 also being injected. Started having trouble on second tankful of 'normal' gas. Took boat out this year, and found the head gasket leaking due to improper torquing. New head gasket, (and several helicoils later) compression is good (135 140 140 140), cleaned carbs and checked the fuel level, tightened carb connections. Tightened exhaust manifold, set timing, great spark at idle by pulling each plug wire and watching the sparks leap a good inch.<br /><br />Starts great, accelerates smoothly with no load, acclerates under load (in water as long as the throttle is not advanced past 3/4. Jet pump impeller looks good, minor dings, and good wear ring. Took out the stator on the jet pump today, and filled wear ring with JB Weld as others have suggested, but I just don't think it is the problem. I bet I had less then .020 of clearance. My ride plate looks level and I can't see where I might have exhaust leaks, although I have had a pop or two of engine backfire when I tried starting it with not quite enough water pressure on land.<br /><br />Any ideas? Could the coils be breaking down at higher load? Starving fuel? The carbs fill very nicely, very quickly when cranking from dry, I just can't believe it is the fuel pump. Fuel screen is clean. It has the black stator, but they don't fail only at WOT, do they?<br /><br />Thanks!
 

funpilot

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Re: 120 Sport Jet Bogs/Cuts out WOT

Gosh... anyone with an engine perspective, especially on these Chyrsler/Force/Mercury powerheads would be appreciated.
 

funpilot

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Re: 120 Sport Jet Bogs/Cuts out WOT

OK... just back from the lake. The impeller/wear ring work improved things quite a bit. My top speed jumped from 31 mph to 36, with occasional forays into 40. The engine used to bog and quit at WOT, now it just misses.<br /><br />My next theory is that the ride plate gasket does need replacing. When I run the garden hose to the engine, some (not much) water is running past the gasket. Perhaps I'm sucking exhaust into that area, causing cavatation.<br /><br />Funny thing is though, 'horsing' the boat in turns IMPROVED the performance on subsequent runs. Perhaps the Impeller, working harder, cut through the JB Weld slightly.<br /><br />Anyone besides me who would like to take a crack at would be very appreciated.
 

funpilot

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Re: 120 Sport Jet Bogs/Cuts out WOT

I bought a new ride plate gasket, but I worked on the boat a bit (put in a dash tachometer... that was enjoyable, and gives me a visual indication of the smoothness of the engine, which surprised me) and the engine was running rough on the flush adapter. So the ride plate gasket is still sitting off to the side. The rough running made me do another search on electronics, and I reread kenimpzoom's "Sport Jet 90 and 120 Ignition Tests" which can be found when you click on his signature.<br /><br />Holy cow... the rev limiter was bad! I'm going to run out and order one, and then test the boat on Saturday... I'll post the results.<br /><br />Thanks kenimpzoom for posting your hard earned knowledge for our benefit.
 

kenimpzoom

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Re: 120 Sport Jet Bogs/Cuts out WOT

You welcome funpilot. So many other times peoples info they took the time to put on the web has helped me with other things. I thought I should return the favor with my Sport Jet info.<br /><br />I have heard many stories about ride plate gaskets, but every one of them, the boat wouldnt hardly move if the gasket was bad.<br /><br />Also, I have my rev limiter disconnected right now. I am just very careful with it, and dont jump any waves.<br /><br />Ken
 

funpilot

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Re: 120 Sport Jet Bogs/Cuts out WOT

Well... I did test the boat on the lake, with the rev limiter disconnected (yellow/black wire only, for those who might want to try this at home) and the boat performed beautifully. I did have to watch the RPMs... a couple of times the boat just 'quit' but immediatly restarted. I saw 5000 rpm and about 46 mph by the boats instrumentation.<br /><br />The rev limiter came in, and I installed it and tested the engine on the flushing adapter. Since I didn't have time to test the boat in the water, my son who is visiting offered to take the boat to the lake and test it for me. Boy did he have fun... I wonder if I'll be able to get the boat back? lol He reports that with two large guys on board, he saw about 4900 rpm and about 44 mph. I think my jet boat fun is just starting!<br /><br />Thanks to everyone who has posted sport jet problems on the forum! I learned a ton.
 

MrGogetty

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Re: 120 Sport Jet Bogs/Cuts out WOT

I pretty much did the same thing boat bucked at 1/2 throttle was told it had some cavitation replaced wear ring cleaned carbs still no change, then saw this thread about rev limiter and deg gum sure was problem fixed.. Thx!!!!
 
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