Fuel pump testing

dragonpat

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To all of you who share your knowledge, thanks. I have a question about 1150 fuel pumps. My motor is a '78 with the most basic pulse operated rectangular type pump. I am experiencing low fuel output. I have rebuilt the pump twice with new check valves the last time. Compression test was at 120 psi here in Colorado. All fuel lines inside the motor are new with hose clamps securely fastened. Squeeze the bulb, watch the filter fill up, and within 2 minutes watch all fuel be consumed. I used my automotive fuel pressure tester at the discharge to carbs and I had maybe 3 psi. I have read that should be around 5-7 psi to function correctly. Is there a test for the pulse pressure to pump. I have detached the two lines and felt the pulse while cranking, but it didn't feel very strong to me. Not sure how much is necessary to operate fuel pump, but couldn't figure out a way to duplicate to bench test. I haven't done a suction test at fuel pump intake yet. I took the fuel cap off the tank while running and no difference. I read here that a fuel line could collapse on itself which might affect the pumps ability to pull fuel from the tank, but the low pressure reading while cranking bothers me. Do any of you guru's have a fresh outlook you could provide. Thank you in advance for considering this request.
 

Dave1027

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Re: Fuel pump testing

If I were you I'd borrow a known good 5 gallon fuel tank complete with lines and primer bulb to test with. Use the process of elimination to isolate problem.
 

achris

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Re: Fuel pump testing

Hi and welcome to iBoats.

I would get on to doing a test on the inlet side of the pump. You need to see that there is less than 2" vacuum on the inlet side. Any more than that will affect the pumped volume. The other thing to check is the pulse hoses. They collapse internally and will cause low pump volume/pressure. You'll need to take them off to check them as they can look good on the outside while being blocked internally.

Chris...........
 

Chris1956

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Re: Fuel pump testing

Hey Chris, didn't those pulse hoses come with internal springs to keep them from collapsing?
 

achris

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Some did, some didn't. Often the spring will rust and the hose will collapse. I know, moisture shouldn't get in there, but it does.....

Chris........
 

dragonpat

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Re: Fuel pump testing

Thanks for the quick responses. I checked vacuum on inlet side and had 2.5" while running. Put fuel inlet hose on and rechecked pressure side while running and measured 4.5 psi. I replaced pulse hoses with high quality fuel line and made sure routing was not impaired. There is a quick connect type fitting coming from the tank to the motor, kinda reminds me of the old style trailer plug, that I have not messed with. I'm not sure what that part is, where the fuel inlet hose to pump is connected. It doesn't appear to be leaking nor do I smell fuel when I pump the bulb hard. Guess I will disconnect fuel line at tank and pull sending unit and check for obstruction at pickup, although fuel looks very clean inside of filter. Thanks again
 

neil7a

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Re: Fuel pump testing

OK I'm new to the site. I couldn't figure out how to post my own problem so I will try this.

I have a 2 stroke 4 cylinder 40 hp. Mercury outboard. 2 carbs FRESHLY cleaned. Fuel pump FRESHLY rebuilt. NEW fuel filter. NEW primer bulb.

I take the pontoon out on the water and it starts and idles great. BUT when I give it full throttle it runs for about 15 seconds the loses all power. What is the issue anyone give some advice????
 

dragonpat

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Re: Fuel pump testing

Quick update, inside of tank and pickup tube spotless. Would it be safe to assume that once rpm's get higher, that fuel pump pressure and volume might get higher? Didn't want to rev motor too high, cause I only have a garden hose attached, but it looked like more fuel was starting to accumulate the faster the revs got. Guess I get to put it in the water to know for sure, because I imagine that without being in the lake what validity do some tests offer, especially when it comes to gunning the motor and checking mid to high throttle. Thanks for your replies. Will post after testing it.
 

achris

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Re: Fuel pump testing

OK I'm new to the site. I couldn't figure out how to post my own problem ....

When you are on the page that has the list of current posts you will see a button that says "Create New Thread". Click that....
 

Barnacle_Bill

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Re: Fuel pump testing

I would rebuild the pump. We are talking about $20 at the Merc dealer. Takes about 30 min. When you are done you know you have a good pump.
 
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