How to change impeller on a 1957 Johnson?

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Need help with instructions on how to change impeller on a 7.5 HP Johnson (1957).

I have a parts diagram, but no how to and I'm not sure if I can do it or does it need to go a shop.

Any help would be great...

Thanks
 

CATransplant

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Re: How to change impeller on a 1957 Johnson?

Impeller Replacement for OMC Big Twins (30-40hp, 1950s and early 1960s, MANUAL SHIFT ONLY!)

OK. Here's the basic drill. It would help if you had the manual, though, and I make no guarantees that I didn't miss something. Give yourself a couple of hours for this job, the first time you do it, and work slowly and methodically.

Have a good place to put parts and keep parts from different assemblies separate:

1. If your model has the outer cover on the back of the midsection, remove the phillips head screws and remove the cover.

2. Shift the outboard into Forward gear. Turn the prop clockwise, if necessary, to shift. On the starboard (right) side of the midsection, you'll find a small cover with two screws. Remove the screws and the cover. On the ones with the extra covers on the midsection, another cover is inside. If so, remove the TOP screw only, then loosen the bottom one and let the cover swing down. NOTE: Be careful here. You don't want to drop the screw down the exhaust tube.

What I do is use a socket and keep it up against the cover as I unscrew. When it's out, I carefully put a finger under the socket and make sure the screw comes out and doesn't drop.Inside this cover you'll see a brass clamp fitting, rectangular in cross-section. A small bolt goes through it at the top. CAREFULLY...remove that bolt, using the technique described above. The upper shift rod is held by this clamp.

3. Tilt the motor up, as if for trailering, using the screw-in bolt or pin to hold it in position. Remove the bolts/screws which hold the lower unit onto the midsection, including the one revealed by removing the cover, if one exists. If they don't want to come out, tap the bolt heads lightly with a hammer to break up the corrosion. Do not force these. Twist one off and you'll complicate the job.

4. Carefully remove the lower unit from the midsection. You may have to bump it lightly with a rubber hammer or other soft tool to free it. It will come off, complete with the driveshaft, lower shift rod and clamp.In most case the water tube(s) will remain in the midsection. If they come out, reassembly will be a bit more difficult, but still doable.

Remove the o-ring from the top of the driveshaft. You will want to replace this on re-assembly.

5. Locate the impeller housing on the lower unit. The driveshaft extends through it. Remove the screws holding the cover in place, then slide the cover up and off the driveshaft. Remove the rubber impeller, noting the direction the arms bend. A small woodruff key is there to drive the impeller. Do not lose this!

6. Place the new impeller over the drive shaft and slide it down, positioning the woodruff key, then sliding the impeller over it, matching the groove in the impeller with the key. Take your time.

7. Give the inside of the impeller housing a thin coat of undiluted liquid dishwashing detergent, then slide the impeller cover over the drive shaft and down to the impeller. Carefully bend the arms of the impeller in the same direction as the old one and work the cover over the impeller slowly and gently. This is the trickiest bit of the whole thing. (Note: if you can't remember the direction, turn the prop clockwise (looking from back of the motor)). It also helps to turn the prop as you work the cover down over the impeller. Once it's seated, reinstall the screws. If you forgot to shift into Forward at the beginning, you can do that now by pulling up on the shift rod.

8. Look at the top of the water pump. You will see one or two rubber grommets. The water tube(s) fit into these. If they are damaged, replace them. Otherwise, smear some liquid dish soap on and in them to lubricate them for easier insertion.

9. Place a new o-ring in the groove at the top of the driveshaft, at the base of the splines. Use some marine grease to lightly grease the splines.

10. Slowly and gently...slide the driveshaft and shift rod back into the engine as you replace the lower unit. As the lower unit gets close to the midsection, align the water tube(s) with the grommets in the water pump. Most engines have these tubes cut at an angle to assist you in getting them in place. If necessary, turn the prop clockwise just a little to get the driveshaft splines aligned. You may well have to wiggle things around to get all the parts in alignment. When the lower unit is fully flush with the midsection, re-install the bolts that hold it to the midsection.(NOTE: if the water tubes have come out with the lower unit, remove them from the water pump and fit them into the upper unit. It ain't easy, but you can do it if necessary. This doesn't usually happen, though)

11. On the midsection, make sure that the upper shift rod is in place in the brass clamp. You can manipulate the shift lever and move the clamp down into neutral, if necessary. Note the groove around the shift rod. That groove MUST align with the bolt hole in the clamp. Re-insert the clamping screw, with star washer. (Here, I put some grease in the socket I use to help hold the screw. If necessary, put a nut in the socket to have the screw protruding from the socket, far enought to engage the threads. Don't drop it down the exhaust tube, please. Tighten the screw firmly, but don't overtighten...you can strip the threads fairly easily.

12. Replace the inner cover, again being careful not to drop the screw inside the exhaust housing. Don't forget to tighten the lower screw on this cover. Replace the outer cover, if any.

13. Replace the external midsection cover, if it exists on your model, and you're done. When replacing this cover, make sure the hose with the little bellows for the idle relief fits into the hole in the cover.

14. With the lower unit submerged in water, well over the water intakes, start the engine (in neutral) and check for some water coming out the idle relief hole.That's it. Take your time and pay attention to where things are. Don't forget the new o-ring on the driveshaft and the grease. Don't lose any parts. The first time's a little scary, but it gets easier after that.If I forgot something, I apologize. Pay attention as you work.
 

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Re: How to change impeller on a 1957 Johnson?

The 7.5hp is a bit different in that the powerhead has to be removed in order to disconnect the shift rod. You will need a new powerhead gasket.

You should also be aware of the carbon seal at the top end of the drive shaft. That seal is vitally important and you should make sure it is 100% good. Always replace the 303804 gasket and 303347 o-ring. Glue the 303804 to the 303356 plate with some gasket sealant. Put some oil on the carbon when assembling.

Outside of improper flywheel installation, neglect of the carbon seal is probably the most usual cause of destruction of those motors. If bad, it lets water into the powerhead a drop at a time, and over a long period of time will cause total destruction. Then somebody will claim it was ran without oil.
 

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Re: How to change impeller on a 1957 Johnson?

Thanks for the comments posted.

Not having a service manual on hand I'm not sure if removing the powerhead is something that I want to tackle.

Perhpaps it's shop time for this project...
 

ovnic1234

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Re: How to change impeller on a 1957 Johnson?

Check your local library. My small town library had a generic repair manual covering a wide range of model's and years. These motors are very simple to work on. Taking it to a mechanic would be terribly expensive, if they are willing to fool with it at all.
After a quick clean up of the garage I will be pulling the lower unit on a 56' 7.5hp evinrude. It isn't nearly as complicated as it might seem. You can be talked through fairly easily if your up for it. Read up on the correct terminology. The following web address will pull up an owners guide on an evinrude 7.5 model. Under the green paint and cowling there is little difference in an evinrude and johnson.

www.old-omc.de-start.html

Copy and paste it into your browser. Very helpful. Thank you Mr. Ott
 

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Re: How to change impeller on a 1957 Johnson?

1. Remove the fuel & air hoses.
2. Remove the vertical throttle shaft (for ease of reassembly).
3. Remove the 7 screws holding the powerhead down.
4. Lift the powerhead off. (You may have to bump it sideways to break the gasket loose).
5. Lift the carbon seal parts off.
6. Remove the two nuts & the lockwasher between them from the shift rod.
7. Remove the 4 screws holding the lower unit on.
8. Slightly twist the lower unit while pulling it off.
9. The water pump will be right in front of you. It is NOT necessary to remove the pin from the shaft--just pull the shaft out of the gearcase after you remove the water pump screws.
10. Now is also a good time to stop that drip from the gearshift handle. Just pull it out of the housing and replace the o-ring.
 

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Re: How to change impeller on a 1957 Johnson?

Sucess...

Thanks for all the comments. Job went well/ Also did a carburator rebuild and I'm looking forward to test the motor in the barrel.
 

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Re: How to change impeller on a 1957 Johnson?

Good work. Hope it works well. And it wasn't that hard either was it :)
 
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