Fuel pump relay Trigger??

Deck1977

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Trying to trigger an electric fuel pump on a 1990 Evinrude 225. I have the whole system instlled I just need to know where i can grab a 12vdc trigger that goes hot when the engine sarts. This will trigger the relay which will power the fuel pump. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
 

Chris1956

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Re: Fuel pump relay Trigger??

The Purple wire is usually the Accessory wire. This runs the gauges. You will also want to hook it to the starter solenoid wire so the pump works while cranking the motor. You will need a diode to isolate the starter solenoid from the engine accessory wire, or the starter solenoid will be running whenever the engine is running.

What about safety - most electric fuel pumps shut off when the engine stalls, incase the fuel line leaks. You would need to hook them to the alternator to sense this.
 

Jayboid

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Re: Fuel pump relay Trigger??

It seems to me that you could skip wiring up the starter selenoid for now. Just use your primer pump before starting to fill up the carb float chamber. That will be enough to get your engine running until your pump turns on.

If the purple accessory wire stays hot when the engine stalls and the key is still on, it is not safe as a hook-up for an electric fuel pump. The idea of using the alternator sounds good. Is there a place on the alternator that gives you a steady 12dcv that goes to 0 volts when the engine stops and the key is on? I don't know, but I would like to know. Wouldn't the alternator just give varible AC voltage? Hooking into the system just after the alternator would likely supply 12dcv, but is likely to stay hot from the battery when the engine stalls. I wonder if there is a place on the power pack that would provide a suitable hook-up? Anybody know?

(Here's another safety consideration: Electric fuel pumps are fuel pushers, not pullers. Therefore, electric pump manufacturers recomend that the pump be placed close to the fuel tank. The problem with this in a boat installation is that it puts a long length of pressurized gas line under the deck. When gas leaks occur, there will be a rapid accumulation of gas out of sight in the bilge. So in a boat, safety comes first. The pump hose to the engine should be short have few or no connections between it and the carbs intake manifold. It should be mounted after the primer bulb, so that the bulb can be used to prime the electric pump. It seems to me that mounting the pump inside the engine cowel would be the best bet as long as spark-free waterproof electrical connections are used.)
 

Deck1977

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Re: Fuel pump relay Trigger??

Thanks Guys!
I have probed the purple wire with a test probe, but it did not light when the engine was running. Also there are two purples, one in each harness coming from the unit under the flywheel. Will either one work?
 

Chris1956

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Re: Fuel pump relay Trigger??

Check the wire that powers your gauges. That is the correct one.

The safe way to wire the fuel pump would be to use the output of the alternator to determine when the engine is running, and only allow the fuel pump to operate at that time. This could be accomplished by building a circuit which contains a diode and a relay. The diode would be connected to one side of he stator AC wire, to rectify it to DC, to run the relay that when closed, supplies the fuel pump with DC power from the engine accessory wire. In this system, when the engine is not running, the fuel pump will be inactive. of course, you will want to feed power from the starter solenoid directly to the fuel pump, so it will operate when the motor is being cranked.

This circuit requires more knowledge than I possess in order to choose the correct relay
 

Deck1977

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Re: Fuel pump relay Trigger??

Thanks for the help guys.
I used the purple wire in the main harness. System works great, but I will have to keep it under close watch as I was unable to install a fail safe to kill the fuel pump when the motor stalls, which is less frequently now that the new pump seems to provide better fuel pressure!
 
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