FYI about Marine Radio experience

Mark42

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I have had a Cobra brand hand held marine two way radio for two seasons. I boat on salt water, often in areas where there are few boats, if any or off season times where other boaters are not likely to see me if I have problems.

When I first started carrying the radio, I was annoyed at the loud beep it made every time a change to channel was made. Once on the boat, I realized how important that beep is. The radio can be bounced around, sat on, dropped and have the cannel you are listening to change. You may think you are listing to weather, but are now listening to dead space, or fishermen. And with the squelch on, you may not hear anything at all, and not realize the channel changed. Its important to know that the channel changed.

All in all, I feel this was a good investment. Its 5 mile range on high power gets me in touch with the Coast Guard or other boaters that are out of sight if needed.

Cell phones don't cut it when you end up in the water, especially salt water. The hand helds will float (near surface - mostly submerged) and are water proof for about an hour to depths well below where you want to go. If you and your family are floating in the water and your boat is upside down, or sinking fast and there are no boats in sight, that floating two way marine radio will be worth every penny and most likely save your lives.

The piece of mind is worth the $100+ expense.

Glad I added this simple radio to my arsenal of safety equipment.

Mark

PS, I think there should be a safety orange color streamer attached that deployes if the radio gets wet for more than a minute or so. Would make it much easier to find in the water than as it is now - dark gray.
 

ThePostMan

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Re: FYI about Marine Radio experience

Funny you should mention the Cobra handheld. . .I was having a debate with one of my buddies over handheld vs console-mount. We both boat the Great Lakes, but it's rare that we're more than 5-10 miles offshore. He was asking me why I'd put that cheap little handheld in my boat when I could have a big fancy permanent unit.

I settled the debate with this:

If this boat goes down and I have to bail out of it and float around in the open water in a life jacket, I can take my radio with me and call for help. How about you?

:D
 

Mark42

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Re: FYI about Marine Radio experience

Funny you should mention the Cobra handheld. . .I was having a debate with one of my buddies over handheld vs console-mount. We both boat the Great Lakes, but it's rare that we're more than 5-10 miles offshore. He was asking me why I'd put that cheap little handheld in my boat when I could have a big fancy permanent unit.

I settled the debate with this:

If this boat goes down and I have to bail out of it and float around in the open water in a life jacket, I can take my radio with me and call for help. How about you?

:D

Good point. I think the only real advantage a permanent mount has over hand held is the external antenna from a dash mount is usually much higher than the hand held's antenna when in use. So it has an extra mile or two of distance. But when you are bobbing around in the water, and your boat is going down, or swamped (so nothing works) the hand held is what you want.

Dash mount is great for the serious fishermen, larger boats, etc, Hand helds are great for us small boaters that want the safety factor and piece of mind.

BTW, the ability to stay in constant contact with the Coast Guard will increase your survival rate a hundred fold over making a cell phone call and diving in the water. The Coast Guard and local boats are much more likely to find you if you can keep in constant contact.
 

DRIFTER_016

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Re: FYI about Marine Radio experience

Good point. I think the only real advantage a permanent mount has over hand held is the external antenna from a dash mount is usually much higher than the hand held's antenna when in use. So it has an extra mile or two of distance. But when you are bobbing around in the water, and your boat is going down, or swamped (so nothing works) the hand held is what you want.

Dash mount is great for the serious fishermen, larger boats, etc, Hand helds are great for us small boaters that want the safety factor and piece of mind.

Actually the biggest advantage to permanent mount radios is the extra power and range they afford.
Handhelds are typically 5 Watt max while the fixed mount radios are 25 Watt max.
With 5 times the power of a handheld coupled with a good antenna they will transmit and receive much greater distances than a handheld ever will.
 

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Re: FYI about Marine Radio experience

Good information mark. I carry both a handheld and a permanent. I generally fish near-shore saltwater.

Keep in mind that vhf radio (all radio I guess) requires line of sight from your antenna to the other radio's antenna.

The longer range of the permanent is great for communicating with friends in other boats. The 5 mile range of the handheld is really in perfect conditions only and I have had difficulty reaching friends that I know were right around that range.

From a safety perspective, the coast guard can easily hear both. Their antennas are often well above anything else in the area. They can usually hear the handheld well even somewhat outside the 5 mile range. Having the handheld on board also gives me protection in the event that I'm the other radio fails or me and the radio are separated from the boat.
 

Mark42

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Re: FYI about Marine Radio experience

Actually the biggest advantage to permanent mount radios is the extra power and range they afford.
Handhelds are typically 5 Watt max while the fixed mount radios are 25 Watt max.
With 5 times the power of a handheld coupled with a good antenna they will transmit and receive much greater distances than a handheld ever will.

Yeah, Drifter is right. I just checked on Cobra's website and the dash mounts do a 1watt/25 watt transmission where the handhelds do a 1watt/5watt. I forget what channels are limited to 1 watt, but I'm fairly sure the Coast Guard channel is a high wattage channel. If not, it should be.

What really supprised me is Cobra now has a submersable dash mount radio. That is great for a swamped boat, assuming that the power stays on. Otherwise, its hard to talk underwater even if the power is on....
 

dingbat

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Re: FYI about Marine Radio experience

All in all, I feel this was a good investment. Its 5 mile range on high power gets me in touch with the Coast Guard or other boaters that are out of sight if needed.

VHF is line of sight only. In open water LOS is roughly 13 miles so just becouse you can see them doesn't mean they can hear you.

IMHO: Hand held units are great for back-up or for use on a lake but I would never trust my life to a hand held as a primary means of communication. A good quality, permanent mount VHF with DSC capability should always be your first line of defense.
 

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Re: FYI about Marine Radio experience

Mark,
there is a floating key ring,that when it gose in the drink it auto inflates a 14" long tube of bright yellow or orange
may be you could clip one on the wrist band on your radio

then if you went in you could wave that above the serface of the water to make it eazyer to see you

woosterken
 

woosterken

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Re: FYI about Marine Radio experience

Mark, check iboats store,in search put floating key ring

thats what I was thinking of.

woosterken
 

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Re: FYI about Marine Radio experience

I have the Uniden Mystic hand held that is water proof, provides gps information and can relay your position to others. There is distress signal button as well. It is limited to 1/5 watt but will work in the water and provide a signal to your location. I use it on land as well as in the water. It is probably overkill for me but then when it comes to it how much is to much when something goes wrong?
 
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