Hydraulic steering troubles

[sffilm1]

Hi, I have a '72 larson 186 with an '86 150hp Johnson with a hydraulic steering system. The system doesn't have a brand name or anything on it and looks like maybe it came with the motor. Anyway, the tilt and steering appear to be one system, both of which are locked up. I'm trying to avoid taking it in if its a sort of drain and refill issue, but I just got the boat and have never dealt with hydraulic steering before, so I have no clue about it. Any help would be appreciated.

Steve

 

[zzzzz]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

look on the engine cowl and see if it says "SeaDrive"...those motors had the system you seem to be describing...if you can find a model number for the motor that would help

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

pictures would help. you can up load to a free service like photobucket.com then you choose the pictures you want( clik the little box at the bottom left of the picture) scrool to the bottom of the page, clik generate html, it will take you to the next page, scroll down to thumb nails clik on that and copy, then insert it into your post.

also if you are planing on posting pictures, you can use the Blue post reply or the go advanced, manage attachments, there you can upload , directly from your computer. besure you pictures have been resized to fit the format.

 

[sffilm1]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

I don't have a camera on me right now, I'm at work. But here are some old pictures of it that may help. Nothing about SeaDrive or anything, cant really find any markings that tell me what system it is, it's just locked up.

http://www.sffilmproductions.com/images/Engine01.jpg
http://www.sffilmproductions.com/images/Engine02.jpg

 

[flabum]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

if that is your boat, then you have a cable steering system, not hydraulic. You will have to remove the nuut on the staerboard side, remove the linkarm and force the cable out of the tilt tube.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

you either have a rack cable system of a rotary system. 99 % chance you are going to have to unbolt and lift the motor to get the old cable out, and the new on in. these are the 2 type helms, tell us which you have.

Rotary.



rack system

 

[sffilm1]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

I'm not sure which kind it is. Are we sure it's cable or rotary? I took some better pictures, so, in either case, these should help.

www.sffilmproductions.com/images/Steering1.jpg
www.sffilmproductions.com/images/Steering2.jpg
www.sffilmproductions.com/images/Steering3.jpg
www.sffilmproductions.com/images/Steering4.jpg
www.sffilmproductions.com/images/Steering5.jpg

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

this is a very old rack cable system. http://www.sffilmproductions.com/images/Steering2.jpg .
this is my suggested replacement, as parts are not available for the existing one.

 

[sffilm1]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

so any idea why it is locked up? the tilt is locked up too....I have no clue what's going on.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

old age, and lack of maintenance, on the steering. the tilt does not look like salt water corrosion, what happens when you work the switch? clik, can you hear motor running? can you lift outboard while tilt motor is running?

 

[sffilm1]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

I'm sorry, your link for your suggested replacement isn't showing up. Pretty expensive?

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

http://www.iboats.com/Teleflex_Safe...13831910--**********.830270110--view_id.40298

sorry, some times i get to typing so fast, i have a brain fart.

 

[sffilm1]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

I can here the tilt motor running, and it worked one time, but now will not. I can lift the motor whether I'm pressing the button or not

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Hydraulic steering troubles

i move this thread to the Boat topics, because the main part was the steering.

i think you will get better results, post a new thread on the tilt, in the Johnson Forum. there are not many of use up on T & T. i know some about the older ones, but not the newer.