OMG when will the madness end??

rogerwa

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Re: OMG when will the madness end??

Its going to take a few years before there actually going to be able to call it the Sharia Infidel hunt.. It would seem to obvious to just change it right out..
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Re: OMG when will the madness end??

Decorated eggs are much older than Easter, and both eggs and rabbits are age-old fertility symbols. The Passover Seder service uses a hard-cooked egg flavored with salt water as a symbol both of new life and the Temple service in Jerusalem. The Jewish tradition may have come from earlier Roman Spring feasts. The ancient Persians also painted eggs for Nowrooz, their New Year celebration falling on the Spring Equinox. This tradition has continued every year on Nowrooz since ancient times.


Easter egg origin stories abound—one has an emperor claiming that the Resurrection was as likely as eggs turning red (see Mary Magdalene); more prosaically the Easter egg tradition may have celebrated the end of the privations of Lent. In the West, eggs were have been forbidden during Lent as well as other traditional fast days. Likewise, in Eastern Christianity, both meat and dairy are prohibited during the fast, and eggs are seen as "dairy" (a foodstuff that could be taken from an animal without shedding its blood).

Another Orthodox tradition is the presenting of red colored eggs to friends while giving Easter greetings. This custom had its beginning with Mary Magdalene. After the Ascension of Christ, she supposedly went to the Emperor of Rome and greeted him with "Christ is risen", as she gave him a red egg. She then began preaching Christianity to him. The egg is symbolic of the grave and life renewed by breaking out of it. The red symbolizes the blood of Christ redeeming the world, represented by the egg, and our regeneration through the bloodshed for us by Christ. The egg itself is a symbol of the Resurrection while being dormant it contains a new life sealed within it. One would have been forced to hard boil the eggs that the chickens produced so as not to waste food, and for this reason the Spanish dish hornazo (traditionally eaten on and around Easter) contains hard-boiled eggs as a primary ingredient.

In the North of England, at Eastertime, a traditional game is played where hard boiled pace eggs are distributed and each player hits the other players egg with their own. This is known as "egg dumping" or "egg jarping". The winner is the holder of the last intact egg. The losers get to eat their eggs. It is also practiced in Bulgaria, Croatia, Serbia, the Republic of Srpska and other countries. They call it tucanje.

 

Tail_Gunner

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:$ Respectfully so what.......... This is america .........and we cant have our own tradition's??????????
 

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I hate the attempts to remove any indications of religion in our culture. Hate it!! This is not because I am violently religious as some of my defenses of religion may seem. I'll once again repeat, I don't even go to church and I had a reasonably extended atheist and agnostic period in my life. But I see it as rewriting history, censorship, cultural denial, appeasement, plain old ordinary carp. Last time I got cranked up about this I reminded some of the renaming of cities in the USSR. Many of the emigrants to this country came here because we DON'T do this stupid stuff. They get it, they know how far it can go.

LT,

I agree with Eric. What people that dream up this carp need is serious backlash. I don't think we know what city or organization has done this, but I'd personally like to let them know how I feel. Can you give us a little more info.?
 

Tail_Gunner

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QC said:
I hate the attempts to remove any indications of religion in our culture. Hate it!! This is not because I am violently religious as some of my defenses of religion may seem. I'll once again repeat, I don't even go to church and I had a reasonably extended atheist and agnostic period in my life. But I see it as rewriting history, censorship, cultural denial, appeasement, plain old ordinary carp. Last time I got cranked up about this I reminded some of the renaming of cities in the USSR. Many of the emigrants to this country came here because we DON'T do this stupid stuff. They get it, they know how far it can go.

LT,

I agree with Eric. What people that dream up this carp need is serious backlash. I don't think we know what city or organization has done this, but I'd personally like to let them know how I feel. Can you give us a little more info.?

Agreed like it or not, this counrty was founded and matured on christain value's, why we are trying to shed ourselve's from our root's is ignorance or arrogance i would think.

But the world we live in today is becoming a bit warped, There is a organiztion called the ACLU it will defend the NAMBLA crowd and it's right to free speech and yet they go into court to eliminate religion from public view....

Im getting a bit tired of event's such as these........
 

Boomyal

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I get chided often, on this forum, because of my statements regarding the motives of our Democrat/Liberal brethern. I was even admonished, by one, to show some proof of my claims regarding the their Socialist motivations . I have claimed that many of the lofty sounding causes they expouse were for the sole, undisclosed, purpose of leading this country down the path to Socialism.

I contend that on the whole, the ACLU is widely supported, admired and accepted by todays Democrats.

Here is a statement from the founder of the ACLU.

[colour=blue]Roger Baldwin notoriously said of himself, "I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."[/colour]

He also said this;

[colour=blue] "Do Steer away from making it look like a socialist enterprise. We want to get a lot of flags, talk a good deal about the Constitution and what our forefathers wanted to make of the country and show that we are really the folks that stand by the spirit of our institutions."[/colour]

....In other words, disguising their true intent.

This is the group that the Democrat rank and file admire and even though their goal may not be socialism/communism, by supporting their Elite, in all their fairness and tolerance carp, that is where they are, defacto, taking us. All one has to do is open their eyes, connect the dots, smell the roses. You are known by the company you keep.

If this is not enough, go check on the funding sources for the ACLU, aside from court ordered awards, they are all Democrat organizations that supply the vast majority of funds.


Today, the Democratic party = Socialism, both directly and indirectly. This is why they are taking Easter out of the Egg Hunt.

I rest my case!:|

BTW, this was Karl Marx's position on religion:

[colour=blue]In the language of Marx's historical materialism, the separation of church and state is just another necessary dialectical change that must inevitably occur on the road to the perfect communal society.[/colour]
 

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Just to add to Booms comments, the separation of church and state has been twisted in recent years to means something the founding fathers never meant it to mean. They wanted to ensure there was no theocracy; the church wouldn't rule the country in short.

It NEVER meant you couldn't have a symbol of religion on government grounds or a symbol of religion on display. Even the Nazi's, who I think we ALL agree weren't a Christina organization, had Got Mit Uns on their military equipment, belt buckles, etc.

We pass bills and make laws in this country that are designed to protect the majority. Yet when it comes to religious protection, the left and the ACLU is embracing the exact opposite. if ONE person is opposed, it can't be done. Since when does the feelings of one trump the feelings of the masses? If I sit down to a table with lamb for dinner, and 6 of my family members want lamb and I don't, I get something else. I don't force my will on the others. We've forgotten that common sense approach in this country and the longer the majority sits on their hands and lets the minority dictate the more we truly give up.

People on this site often get off on a rant about giving up freedoms like smoking, and the patriot act. How can you honestly get upset that a few smokers have to quit, yet you'll support something that makes the religious majority give up a symbol because a handful of people complained? Doesn't make sense. Then they hide behind the idiotic separation statement. When we try and elect a Bishop President and install Cardinals and Monsignor's in the house, get upset. Till then, practice what you preach and be tolerant. A Jew, Christian, Muslim etc. has as much right to see their symbols displayed and customs honored as much as the secular non religious have the right to expect NOT to see it. I'm not Jewish; therefore I don't go to the Synagogue. If you’re not religious, don't go to an Easter Egg hunt. How flipping hard is that?
 

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Re: OMG when will the madness end??

Any specifics on who's idea it was to drop the word "Easter" and why?
 

Boomyal

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i386 said:
Any specifics on who's idea it was to drop the word "Easter" and why?

If you were any good at connecting the dots, you could take a wild guess and probably be right!
 

Limited-Time

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The story was on the local NEWS here. As I recall the reason stated the promoters wanted to encourage the non easter observing public to feel welcome, and to remove any religious connotation from the event.
 

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There are a lot of people who hunt eggs on Easter that never step inside a church.

Most any holiday is promoted greater by those who stand to cash in on the hype.

Eggs are in the greatest supply this time of year.
 

Link

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Skinnywater got me to looking for how many eggs are sold during easter.

93.4 million dozen X 12 is a lot of eggs!

Here is part of the story and I will leave a link at the bottom if you want to read the whole thing.
PS I did not run it by snoopy! AKA Snopes :)
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Enjoy these fun facts about Easter, Passover, Spring and eggs!

Eggs sales are the highest during the spring. Last year (2005), on average, 72.0 million dozen eggs were sold at U.S. supermarkets each week. But, many, many families decorate eggs for Easter or spring or use eggs as part of the Passover Seder meal. So many families enjoy these traditions- especially decorating Easter eggs- that the total jumped to 76.1 million dozen eggs sold during the week before Easter. During the week of Easter itself, egg sales reached 93.4 million dozen. The week after Easter, sales dropped to 64.5 million and eventually leveled out to normal. Spring egg sales will probably be similar or maybe a bit more this year.

Eggs have been a part of springtime traditions for a very long time. Centuries before Christ was born, pagan people of many nations celebrated the return of the sun and the rebirth of nature each spring. Since new life came from eggs, eggs became the symbol of nature’s rebirth. For Jews, too, a roasted egg on the Passover Seder plate has stood for life and the hope of salvation for many, many centuries. Later, Christians adopted the egg to represent Christ’s Resurrection.

http://www.aeb.org/KidsAndFamily/easter/Easter_Egg_Salad.htm
 

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Gabby said:
American Politicians are Sheep by and large. If they have 5000 constituents that say nothing and one Godless Communist Democratic Atheist that complains, they'll cater to that SOB.

I love this guy!
 

i386

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Boomyal said:
i386 said:
Any specifics on who's idea it was to drop the word "Easter" and why?

If you were any good at connecting the dots, you could take a wild guess and probably be right!

I'm not, and since your dots always connect to the same place I though I'd ask for more info. 8) You know what they say about assuming...
 

steve201

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Stop complaining here on a boat site...get to the governmental weenies and yell at them....it's time for the silent majority to stop being silent and speak up...as stated..this country was founded on christian values...not muslim or athiestic !!!..call...write...scream!!...if we don't speak up now...it will get out of control and become a witch hunt as in the days of Hitler and Stalin....some of you might remember those days....:devil:

try here...
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
 

Gabby

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RubberFrog said:
Gabby said:
American Politicians are Sheep by and large. If they have 5000 constituents that say nothing and one Godless Communist Democratic Atheist that complains, they'll cater to that SOB.

I love this guy!

Frog, I'm touched, truly, touched.
 
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