Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

smokinjoe72

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I'm considering this ebbtide thats for sale for $1000. I believe its a 74-76 16ft..unsure of the model. When I was a boy, my dad had a 16ft Cobia that resembled this boat. Now that I have a family of my own, I'd like something similar.

I spoke to the quasi-owner over the phone several times and his father-in-law was the original owner of the boat. It was willed it to his grandson (quasi-owner's step son). He didnt know the exact year of the boat - the grandson has all the details. Apparently it's been covered and maintained. Most of it looks original. The seats have been replaced and possibly some of the cushions, side bumper cushions (sp) from the bow.

I plan on looking at it in a couple days. My question is, what should I look for when I inspect the boat? As a hobby I work on cars and rebuild motors so dont go easy one me! :)

Thx in advance!

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tashasdaddy

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Re: Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

go back, edit and resize your pictures, so we do not have to scan R-L to read your question.
 

hibbert6

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Re: Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

Looks Good!

I have a similar boat. The Tri-Hulls (what this one and mine are) tended to be made in 2 sizes: 15' and 17'. My dad had an 18' but it was i/o. Mine is a 15' with a Merc 650. It's adequate for skiing. (I'd LOVE your outboard - it's the max size for my boat. ) How big are you and how many people in the boat? I'm small at 5'6" and 140lbs; my wife & I and 2 kids are OK on the 15 footer. But when I add another adult it gets tight. Though there are seats for 8, the 15' is "mini". As my son and his buddies approach their teens, I'm going to need a bigger boat. So measure and decide.

Here's what I would check:

(Other places on this forum you'll see more of what to check for on the motor.)

Make sure you are starting with fresh gas, mixed with the proper amount of 2 cycle oil.

Barring anything fancy, do a compression test of all 3 cylinders. (Remember to tag the plug wires so you remember what goes where.) Should be within 10% of each other, and all over 100psi.

Look at the plugs. Look for the same things as on a car.

Inspect the prop for dings. If there's anything severe a bent or severely dinged up prop can mess up the bearings.

With muffs on, and NO ONE NEAR THE PROP, turn up the water and start the engine.

Oh - NEVER start the motor out of the water. At LEAST have "muffs" and a garden hose on it.

Make sure the motor "pees" out the side at all rpm levels. But don't run it on the muffs for too long.

Inside the boat, walk slowly over the entire floor. If you find a soft spot, that implies that water has gotten under the carpet, has rotted the wood floor and probably the wood "stringers" under the floor. That's gonna mean some real work to fix it. Someone who knows what they're doing can probably do it in 2 -3 days (4 hours per day). Took me 3 weeks.

Sit on all the seats to check the condition of the foam underneath. Crunchy is bad.

Oh - I detect a potential problem. You don't have back-to back seat pairs, yet there's a water ski pole. Unless your passenger seat can swivel 180 degrees to face backwards, you shouldn't be towing anybody. Is that gas tank bolted down? Could it be moved? A gas tank is NOT a good foot rest, for a number of reasons.

Make sure the boat is mounted securely to the trailer, then tow it to the water, with his vehicle or yours. If it's a long drive, you might want to squirt new grease in the wheel bearings, first.

Take the for a test drive. try a couple of fast water-ski type starts. Make sure to try reverse, too.

If you like the boat so far, and if you have a smaller vehicle than the one you used to tow the boat to the water with, ask the owner to let you try towing it out with your vehicle. Give him your DL as collateral! (My dad found his dream boat, only to discover that his truck (with a 6 cyl) couldn't pull the boat out of the water!)

Check the bilge for water.

Now, you have a pretty good idea of the general condition of the boat. It won't be perfect. That's OK - just price out what it will cost to do repairs before you make an offer. For instance, a soft spot on the floor could be something you're willing to tackle, or it could be a deal breaker if you're not handy. Bad seat cushions or upholstery: The driver & passenger seat pairs are easily obtainable @ about $170 per pair. The bow cushions, on the other hand, require someone with upholstery skills.

I wish you the best!

Dave
 
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ezmobee

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Re: Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

Well Dave more than covered what I was going to say. Looks like a fair deal for a grand if no rot and running motor with good compression. Good luck!
 

fabrimacator21

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Re: Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

Oh - I detect a potential problem. You don't have back-to back seat pairs, yet there's a water ski pole. Unless your passenger seat can swivel 180 degrees to face backwards, you shouldn't be towing anybody. Is that gas tank bolted down? Could it be moved? A gas tank is NOT a good foot rest, for a number of reasons.


I wish you the best!

Dave

I agree with everything you said except ^^^^^ this.... thats what mirrors are for.;)

Also the tank looks like it would be too far away from the back of the boat to be a step.


That is a nice boat for 1k.... as long as everything checks out I'd say your getting a hell of a deal. Around here your lucky to find a '12 foot john boat with a 15hp outboard for $1200.
 

smokinjoe72

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Re: Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

(pictures resized.. changing your resolution works just the same)

Dave, Ez and Fab - thanks for the great advice. Esp Dave! I do think you covered everything quite nicely. I'm going to look at the boat this morning so I'll post a report with more pictures and details.

Couple things tho that bothered me from the pictures (which Dave pointed out) first, was the lack of back-to-back seats. Those custom seats will have to be replaced. The missing bow cushions (not a big priority). And the ski pole.. as beefy as it is, may have to go.

I assumed the gas tank was a spare, since I remember (from the Cobia) the tanks fit under a transom cubby (sp) in the center.

The trailer will have to be painted, and the carpet looks original. I'll also have to add a fish finder, removable bait well and some rod holders. (It's all adding up). Despite all that, if its in decent shape.. it may find a new home.

Thx!
 

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Re: Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

Hi SmokinJoe,
I have a boat similar to what you are looking at. Mine is a '79 model that I purchased last year. It was all original, just like it came from the factory when I got it. It looks almost new. It had been sitting in a garage and not used for the last 15 years.

We love this old boat. We use it to cruise up and down the river almost every weekend. It gets lots of attention. Just yesterday the game warden stopped me. I though he wanted to check my license and safety equipment but he just wanted to look at my Ebbtide. He said his family had owned one when he was a kid and he thought they were now a classic.

The windshield on mine will look different to you. I cut it down so I could see better out of it. With the 70hp it will run 36 mph with one person and 34 mph with two. I haven't tried pulling a skier or tube so I can't tell you how it will do if that is how you intend to use it. It is a good riding boat for it's size and gets good mileage with a 17 pitch prop.

I have attached a couple of photos of it. If I can answer any questions let me know.
 

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jdsgrog

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Re: Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

Didn't see this on any of the posts, but also be sure the transom is solid. Check the transom for stress cracks (not necessarily spider cracks) for visible signs. Also, take a rubber mallet and tap around the transom for a solid and consistent sound and any noticeabl soft spots.. Tap and feel particularly around the tow rings, any bolt holes, and the drain hole(s). You can also give some downward pressure on the motor to see if there is a lot of play. You don't want to mess with a rotted transom. That's not an easy fix by any means.
 

oops!

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Re: Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

on an older boat, you really have to check the stringers, deck foam and transom.

search core sample.

if you are unsure of doing that, hire a marine surveyor for the hull inspection....it can save you big time hours of labor.

cheers
oops
 

ezmobee

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Re: Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

With much respect to Oops....I can't see spending hundreds on a marine surveyor for a $1000 boat......I think people throw that bit of advice around a little too universally on here sometimes. Some users have reported back that these inspections cost like $500+. Well worth it on a larger more expensive boat of course but not for an older runabout.
 

fabrimacator21

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Re: Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

With much respect to Oops....I can't see spending hundreds on a marine surveyor for a $1000 boat......I think people throw that bit of advice around a little too universally on here sometimes. Some users have reported back that these inspections cost like $500+. Well worth it on a larger more expensive boat of course but not for an older runabout.


I was about to say something like that....

even if the stringers are bad it's still a good deal assuming you can do the work yourself.
 

BugsBunnyBoater

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Re: Thinking about a 70's boat purchase.. ideas welcome

Be sure you can get a good title. If you were in texas like me you would have the get the last person who name iis on the title to sign it over to you.
If you were not carefull you will have a boat that you cant get a title to
 
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