Railroader12
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I need HELP from a Texan on this, Im LOOSING my mind and literally want NOTHING more than to see TPWD get hit by a meteorite and burst into flames....its unbelievable what they are putting me through over what is ESSENTIALLY a fricken KAYAK!
This is quite the little story, so bear with me.
I purchased a small bass raider 10e used 2 months ago WITH a title signed front and back and a bill of sale. During that week I also purchased a 2nd bass raider brand new AND a 23' Tahoe deck boat so I decided to let this one go. Sold it to a friend at work. This is where things get silly.....
Friend goes to register it, they start hooting and hollering that the date has been tampered with and re-written and send him home empty handed. He calls me understandably concerned so I try to get ahold of the guy I bought it from to write a letter stating it was an accident, he THEN tells me he has owned it for a year and never signed it over so he just went and wrote OVER the original date with the date I bought it...Wow......Cool, my bad for not checking, oops!
Fast forward through all my efforts to locate the ORIGINAL registered owner I was finally able to track him down for my friend, he gets in contact and meets up with him. Hes super old and 100% REFUSES to just say he sold it to my friend on such and such date to cut out the middle man who decided never to register and make this easier, no big deal, the penalty and taxes are LITERALLY 30 bucks anyways so who cares. He was even nice enough to write a completely new bill of sale in my friends name and sends him on his way. Friends Wife accidentally throws it all away 2 days later...lol. He has to bug the old guy AGAIN for the same paperwork. Hes not happy but does it anyway.
Goes BACK to TPWD and they tell him, "NOPE" WE want to KNOW who didnt register it! The TITLE is Worthless without a 2nd bill of sale", "someone could go to jail over tax evasion over this!" "BLAH BLAH blah... Oh...MY....God..the amount of pure horse manure that spews out of these peoples mouths are worthy of a Saturday night live skit.
Were BOTH pissed at this point, so I just say, screw it! "Ill just go with you, claim I purchased it from the original owner and say I changed the date of sale and offer to pay for YEARS back just to make this go away!" ITs RIDICULOUS and remember people......its a Fricken $500 KAYAK! He just wants stickers so he doesent get messed with using a 30lb trolling motor on it!
That was today.....They told me I could be TICKETED for not REGISTERING A FRICKING KAYAK WITHIN 20 DAYS of ownership transfer! I demand to talk with a supervisor while SOMEHOW managing to keep my cool throughout this ridiculous power trip from the other side of the window... "Sir, Im sorry, but we need another signed affidavit from the original owner explaining the date discrepancy" I explain to her the man is literally over 80, is already BEYOND annoyed with this as he should be, and as the rest of us are. I offer to PAY BACK TAXES PENALTY AND INTEREST from the YEAR the thing was manufactured in 2013 and I was NOT kidding. She smirks and tells me NO!!! And adds, that If I dont furnish the signed affidavit from the original owner I may as well throw the thing in the trash because they WILL NOT process the title transfer without it. Un....beleivable. Did I mention we have the SIGNED TITLE FRONT AND BACK, NO LIENS AND A BILL OF SALE FROM HIM????????
What can I do now assuming the old man flat out refuses to touch another document??
Oh, and SCREW TPWD!!!
This is quite the little story, so bear with me.
I purchased a small bass raider 10e used 2 months ago WITH a title signed front and back and a bill of sale. During that week I also purchased a 2nd bass raider brand new AND a 23' Tahoe deck boat so I decided to let this one go. Sold it to a friend at work. This is where things get silly.....
Friend goes to register it, they start hooting and hollering that the date has been tampered with and re-written and send him home empty handed. He calls me understandably concerned so I try to get ahold of the guy I bought it from to write a letter stating it was an accident, he THEN tells me he has owned it for a year and never signed it over so he just went and wrote OVER the original date with the date I bought it...Wow......Cool, my bad for not checking, oops!
Fast forward through all my efforts to locate the ORIGINAL registered owner I was finally able to track him down for my friend, he gets in contact and meets up with him. Hes super old and 100% REFUSES to just say he sold it to my friend on such and such date to cut out the middle man who decided never to register and make this easier, no big deal, the penalty and taxes are LITERALLY 30 bucks anyways so who cares. He was even nice enough to write a completely new bill of sale in my friends name and sends him on his way. Friends Wife accidentally throws it all away 2 days later...lol. He has to bug the old guy AGAIN for the same paperwork. Hes not happy but does it anyway.
Goes BACK to TPWD and they tell him, "NOPE" WE want to KNOW who didnt register it! The TITLE is Worthless without a 2nd bill of sale", "someone could go to jail over tax evasion over this!" "BLAH BLAH blah... Oh...MY....God..the amount of pure horse manure that spews out of these peoples mouths are worthy of a Saturday night live skit.
Were BOTH pissed at this point, so I just say, screw it! "Ill just go with you, claim I purchased it from the original owner and say I changed the date of sale and offer to pay for YEARS back just to make this go away!" ITs RIDICULOUS and remember people......its a Fricken $500 KAYAK! He just wants stickers so he doesent get messed with using a 30lb trolling motor on it!
That was today.....They told me I could be TICKETED for not REGISTERING A FRICKING KAYAK WITHIN 20 DAYS of ownership transfer! I demand to talk with a supervisor while SOMEHOW managing to keep my cool throughout this ridiculous power trip from the other side of the window... "Sir, Im sorry, but we need another signed affidavit from the original owner explaining the date discrepancy" I explain to her the man is literally over 80, is already BEYOND annoyed with this as he should be, and as the rest of us are. I offer to PAY BACK TAXES PENALTY AND INTEREST from the YEAR the thing was manufactured in 2013 and I was NOT kidding. She smirks and tells me NO!!! And adds, that If I dont furnish the signed affidavit from the original owner I may as well throw the thing in the trash because they WILL NOT process the title transfer without it. Un....beleivable. Did I mention we have the SIGNED TITLE FRONT AND BACK, NO LIENS AND A BILL OF SALE FROM HIM????????
What can I do now assuming the old man flat out refuses to touch another document??
Oh, and SCREW TPWD!!!
Apparently that's the way they handle it there. However, the previous owner didn't want to be put out and wouldn't file for the title. My bank was not helpful in clearing this up (gee, I'm making payments, so what do they have to worry about). This went on for 6 months and I'd had enough. I called the guy and let him know the boat was still registered in his name... and hopefully nothing would happen that he might be held responsible for