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What are these, any ideas? The silver one on the left is especially interesting. It's a horizontally opposed twin.
 

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I think I can make out a model 300 which may make it a 1935 3.7hp??? Cool. Wonder if it can be made pretty.
 

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Yes it is a model 300. They were made 2 years actually, the 1935 3.7hp, and the 1936 3.7hp. Essentially the same motor I believe though, someone correct me if im wrong. They use a Champion J8C plug, gapped to 030. The point gap is 030 as well. Fuel mix 1/2 pint per gallon.

The other is obviously a Martin. George W Martin was the inspiration for these little black, great idling machines. He was a former outboard racer, and it was in the 30s that he began envisioning an outboard with mechanically controlled intake poppet valves. This ensure equal fuel distribution and uninterrupted acceleration. He got himself a patent, then went to the National Pressure Cooker company in Wisconsin to finance and produce his vision. So in '43a deal was struck where he would get a royalty for every motor sold. This lasted until the 60s until the National Pressure Cooker company finally sold off the remaining parts.

I have a few of them, they are really pretty good running motors. I run Champion J6Cs in mine, gapped to 035. Plug gap is 020. I run the same mix, 1/2 pint per gallon.
 

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By the way, for the model 300, I cannot make out your serial number, but if its a 1935 it would be between 219,372 and 232,156

If a 1936 it would be between 232,157 and 252, 675
 

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Are either rare? I think the Johnson would be cool to clean up and display in the shop.
 

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There are lots of Martins around.-----They were a quality built motor and very good runners.----Have a few myself.
 

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Like racerone says, there are actually still quite a few Martins around. They seem hard to sell though for whatever reason, so don't hold much value. Run it on a small tinny, they idle great for fishing. Maybe worth 50 bucks as it sits More if running.

The 300s are fairly collectable. Wont get rich or anything, but it is worth more than the Martin.
 

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Like racerone says, there are actually still quite a few Martins around. They seem hard to sell though for whatever reason, so don't hold much value. Run it on a small tinny, they idle great for fishing. Maybe worth 50 bucks as it sits More if running.

The 300s are fairly collectable. Wont get rich or anything, but it is worth more than the Martin.

Actually, I think its great that the values of these antiques has stayed affordable. It allows the average blue collar guy a reasonable hobby and collection.

So many antique markets have gotten out of control to the point that you have to be a hedge fund guy to play. Look at muscle cars for example. Even collecting fishing lures or fly rods and wheels, not to mention shotguns, has gotten ridiculous.
 

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Maybe I'll stick these in the "one of these days" shop. Collecting old motors would certainly be space friendly compared to all the darn boats I currently have. Some I can't even run anymore because of the speed limits and the fact that there are actually water cops now that think an 80mph boat is a safety issue and not just cool. Used to be they would want to go for a ride, this year I got two tickets.
 

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Thanks FR, actually just saw that. To be honest, if I do clean one up it will be the Johnson. I wonder if you can still get the decals made, these are not readable so who knows what they said. Either way it will have to wait til I am done working for a living.
 

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Try Peter from NyMarine.ca for vintage decals. There may be other sources,
 

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I ran a Martin 60 a lot as a kid. Raced a neighbor kid with a Scott-Attwater 7.5. We ran often together, most always to a draw. So my guess is that the 60 is acutally 7.5 hp. Once we got going, neither of us could pull away from the other.
 

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I think the 60 model was a 7.2 hp----No reverse so that saves drag in the gearcase.
 
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