tell tale blockage 3.3 mercury 2002

[nitram79]

Re: tell tale blockage 3.3 mercury 2002

Glad to see it's better. Fresh water rinse after salt water ...always. If you run the motor in a tank, try hot water in the tank since salt will dissolve better in hot water. You can always add vinegar too. Just don't sniff in the fumes.

thanks quicktach, she's not perfect but will do i think for now. which fumes are you talking about petrol, exhaust or vinegar? cos i've had some big doses of each of latey ha ha but really trying to minimise that now lol

 

[Jon7]

Re: tell tale blockage 3.3 mercury 2002

Hey Nitram, having found a local marine specialist who service including impeller spark plug, gear oil plus full grease up carb clean for just ?60 approx $90 US I am inclined to go for that especially after reading several reviews about the reassembly through the small hole with limited space that you have to line the drive, gear select and water pipe through it doesn't sound like a very fun Saturday morning to me was thinking perhaps I let somebody else pull their hair out over it, I suppose the question would be, given what you know now if someone had offered to do all that for 90 bucks would you have done it? I am thinking also in case it does turn out to be more involved at least it would b in capable hands?

 

[nitram79]

Re: tell tale blockage 3.3 mercury 2002

personally Jon7, i'd do those things myself, the LU and impeller and greasing would cost me $40-$50 AU but we seem to pay more over here anyway. an outboard mechanic charges $90 - $100 an hr here so it aint cheap and thats just their labour charge. I might look around for something cheaper.its funny as I said it was a ***** to line up, I spent 15 mins trying to line it up and then all of a sudden I can't miss lol it's very strange but it is easy, doing those things you mentioned, well pretty easy but if you can't be bothered and don't care about cash then let someone else do it. I just can't justify paying someone 100 p/hr when I know with some patients and learning I can do it....hopefully lol

anyways guess what people... I sold the chinese motor today fianally and got my money back thank god, but I was bored so i thought I would blow in the tell tale of the 3.3 to see how clear it is and its TOTALLY BLOCKED!!! the worst it's been since i got it. I ran it in a bucket to make sure and yep nothing at all not even a drip or bubble. So my time has now come to strip this thing apart. i just printed out the manual and am going to have a serious go at it tomoro. I know I can get the 6 head bolts off. just have to figure out the rest. This is going to be a serious step up for me in mechanics and hopefully i dont stuff it up. otherwise I will be off to the outboard techs to put the thing back together.its funny as I said it was a ***** to line up the drive shaft, I spent 15 mins trying to line it up and then all of a sudden I can't miss lol it's very strange but the job you mentioned for someone that knows what they are doing will take 1hr max for you add 1 more unless you struggle hard but its really not that bad, it's just fiddley, but each to their own. I like to learn more about them so I dont have to pay obscene fees for services that are simple. JMO

 

[Jon7]

Re: tell tale blockage 3.3 mercury 2002

Hi Nitram, here's the latest, I met with the marine guy eho was the most helpful and nice bloke I could of hoped for, I managed to get him to strip on the spot as I was worried about increasing costs should it have been all clogged up internally, low and behold the impeller was shot to bits, the fins where bent over and melted but lucky for me none had detached, the metal key you mentioned jumped out and made a great escape somewhere in his work shop, so he replaced for a new genuine impeller and and a new key to locate it on the shaft, whilst I waited, he was also able to change the gear oil for me and did it all for equivalent under 50 US, we then placed in his test tank and it pushed water like a tap. To say I was pleased would be an understatement, however you were all correct and changing it myself would have been so easy. The beauty of it all I watched the whole thing and know exactly how to do it in future. So if anyone from the UK need something for outboard this chap was amazing and would highly recommend! My good fortune didn't end there and I managed to get a partial refund from the vendor so I am not to far out of pocket on this now. All in all a good experience, he did mention that the salt water used units get it all clogged in the head, and the thing to do is always clear with fresh for a little run after sea use, it sounds like you will find a lot of salty deposits in you head when you remove it. Very best of luck with it, for me taking the head off would have seemed easier than the perceived hassle with impeller, only thing you mY want to double check, you will probably need a new gasket kit as precious experience with non marine engines shows they usually break down when you pull apart and some compress to seal when fitting. Good luck with it and thanks to all who helped me

 

[nitram79]

Re: tell tale blockage 3.3 mercury 2002

Hey Jon, and everyone else who was part of this post. Jon good to hear your issue was only the impeller Your lucky you didnt go through the **** i did but hey, it's been a major learning experience, and i'm PROUD to say,"I FIXED IT" I paid $10 to this guy today to take off the flywhell coz in the manual it says thats part of the steps to do when taking off the head. it wasn't untill he took it off that he asked me, why i wanted it off? so i told him I wanted to take the head off, and his reply was, you dont need to take the flywheel off to do that. I told him i tried before but it was stuck and he said the carefully lever it, so he got the $10ner and I went home feeling stupid but more determined than ever to get the head off and low and behold i used a hammer to do the levering and "crack" apart she came. so I laid the head down and trying to work out what i was looking at. i fololwed the water passages and they were all clear, but when i blew in the tell tale it was blocked as all hell. so i did some wire stabbing in the holes and even poored vinegar in the holoes left em for ages and when i bl;ew in the TT tube it was still blocked. after more studying I noticed that the passages that lead to the exhaust and all in between were still very clear, but blowing in the TT was still impossible. I then remembered my mum bought me an air compressor to pump my car tires up and it could handle up to 260 psi. so i took it all outside and after a failed first attempt to blow the TT blockage I upped the psi to 45 and had another crack and it popped . it was a major mission especially cos i know nothing about outboards but the satisfaction of doing something yourself is well worth it also you might tihink that 10 bucks was a waste to pop the flywhell that didnt need popping but this other prick from an outboard mechanics shop wanted to charge me $35 and that was after I told him I got ripped off by the person i bought from so I guess he thought he would try to add to my misery. so anyways thats my story and so in the end i put it all back together and gave it a test run and here is the result 3.3 hp Mercury Outboard fixed tell tale flow - YouTube

thanks to all that were invoved, its definately been a learning experience.

 

[Jon7]

Re: tell tale blockage 3.3 mercury 2002

Nice one, well done it sure is nice to see the tell tale peeing water correctly now! Happy days two good running little motors, just need warmer weather in the UK and I will be out for a nice day on the boat, enjoy your engine! Thanks again Jon

 

[nitram79]

Re: tell tale blockage 3.3 mercury 2002

Hey Jon, thanks mate. it is definately a plus having good water flow out the tell tale, so much so that when I took the boat out the other day i felt more cinfident so i went out of botany bay (where your captain cook landed) and around a few points prob 5 - 8 km all up travelling distance there and back and was hitting a top speed of 12 miles p/h, buti was having issues with the engine popping out of the water so i couldnt get any faster. have some trim adjusting and seating positioning to sort out, cos i know she goes faster but it's still good enough to get me around . so yes, happy motoring to u and all peace

 

[Jon7]

Re: tell tale blockage 3.3 mercury 2002

All sounds lovely must be really nice with the weather you must be having! Well I got a chance to take it for a test run, I wanted to make sure it all worked great, unfortunately the engine didn't run how I had hoped and cut out unable to restart. I think its a fuel problem so I plan to strip and clean carb plus fresh fuel at the weekend, am fairly sure it should resolve the problem. Quick question, what trim.position is yours in as it seems to be fairly optimum from the speed you have been getting, mine seemed to go the same speed at half throttle as it did at full power. I am guessing the trim needs moving? Its pushing a 10ft fibre glass clinker style open top so it should get along nicely but I have to say after the anticipation and watching several on you tube it didn't quite go as I had hoped, I am thinking it may need to be.trimmed into the second hole of the.4 as the front end was petty high and a guess the prop was angled down rather than straight at full powder which is I expect why it went same speed at both full and half power? Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Cheers Jon

 

[nitram79]

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shame to hear about the engine cutting out but mine was doing the same as your throttle issue. seemed to be the same speed from 3/4 to full throttle. the trim pin was in the furthest hole from the outboard leg. I moved it up 2 positions cos the rubber guard thing was in the way. I read that the best postion is to have the motor running straight across the water at top speed. I don't really care anyways as it goes fast enough, but i just wanted to know how fast I can actually go in optimal conditions (trim and water surface) that is. weather has been good tho, but don't know about the next few days, weather is going to be windy, but that means waves and surfing so I cant really lose now can I