Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

[BEKO1212]

I replaced coil spring i got some tension on spring but rope doesnt go all the way back in.how do i put more tension on spring? Did i miss something when it put everything together?

 

[Daviet]

Re: Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

Depending on what you are working on, model number, you can tension the spring by winding it a little tighter.

 

[BEKO1212]

Re: Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

1986 johnson 25 hp. How do I wind it tighter?

 

[Daviet]

Re: Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

Did you preload the spring the required amount of turns when you installed the spring?
You might have to remove the rope and wind it tighter.

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

1986 johnson 25 hp. How do I wind it tighter?

(Manual Starter Assembly)
(This pertains to the type of Manual Starter Housing that sits over top of the flywheel)
(J. Reeves)

Lay the manual starter housing upside down on the workbench.

Wind the spring "counter clockwise" in your hands so that you can lay it into the housing, having the outer spring end hooked over the retaining pin. Make sure the spring is in there properly (You do not want it to fly out of there).

Holding the spring down, with pliers carefully bend about 3" or 4" (more or less) on the inner portion of the spring in towards the center of the housing. This will allow the pulley pin to enter the retaining hole at the end of the spring properly.

Lay the pulley down over the spring, making sure that the pin on the pulley is secured to the retaining hole on the end of the spring. Install the spindle (center bearing gizzmo), bolt, nut, etc, whatever your particular manual starter may use.

The cord (nylon) should be roughly 72" long. Have a figure 8 knot in one end. Heat the other end so that you could form a point on it, wiping it with a rag when it's burning or hot to a melting point.

Now, with the starter housing still upside down, keeping a firm grip on that starter housing and also the pulley, start winding the pulley in the normal counter clockwise direction. Wind it as far as it will go, then carefully let it back off until the starter pulley cord hole is aligned with the housing cord outlet.

Hold the pulley there and insert the cord in through the inside of the pulley and out through the starter housing. Pull the cord through completely and get a good grip on it. Now let the pulley retract the cord, but hold onto the cord (don't let it fly in there).

If it's obvious that the cord is too long, figuring what will be needed within the handle, shorten it as needed.

Pull the cord out so that about two feet of the cord is exposed. Tie a slip knot so that the cord can't retract back.

Insert the cord into the handle and secure as needed, then release the slip knot allowing the cord to be withdrawn fully. That's all there is to it..

 

[boobie]

Re: Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

Joe, if anybody can't follow the above directions they shouldn't be working on an outboard. GOOD JOB ! Never read that one before. Boobie

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

Joe, if anybody can't follow the above directions they shouldn't be working on an outboard. GOOD JOB ! Never read that one before. Boobie

Boobie.... Yeah, it's pretty self explanatory. I tried not to miss anything when I wrote it. It's been in my database for at least 8 or 9 years but is seldom used.

 

[BEKO1212]

Re: Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

Boobie.... Yeah, it's pretty self explanatory. I tried not to miss anything when I wrote it. It's been in my database for at least 8 or 9 years but is seldom used.

ok thanks guys.did everything u said but now another problem is it is very hard to pull even with 2 hands and now the motor wont start.i pulled the plugs out and it is al ot easier to pull.

 

[Daviet]

Re: Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

Does it turn over easier if you just rotate the flywheel with your hands with the plugs out? Is problem in the recoil or inside the block?

 

[BEKO1212]

Re: Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

I dont know where the problem is. Thats what i was trying to find out. It was tough to start before changing the coil spring. I had to use 2 hands to pull. But now its even harder to pull since i changed the spring.i changed the rope because that ripped. The newrope is thicker than the old one but the johnson dealer said its the right one.is it possible that has something to do with it?

 

[F_R]

Re: Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

There seems to have been a lot of changes to the strength of the spring over the years and models. That probably is the problem. Besides, the springs take somewhat of a set and loose strength over time.

I do the spring winding slightly different than Joe. There is a small hole in the rope pulley. Before you start working on it, find a nail or something that will fit through the hole. Now, when you have the starter put back together, wind the pulley counter-clockwise as far as it will go, then carefully back it off one turn, and stick the nail in the hole. That will keep it from unwinding so you have boht hands free to install the rope.

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: Replaced coil spring now not enough tension when i pull cord!!

ok thanks guys.did everything u said but now another problem is it is very hard to pull even with 2 hands and now the motor wont start.i pulled the plugs out and it is al ot easier to pull.

Remove the 3 screws to remove the manual starter from the engine. With it off, if the manual starter functions freely, then obviously the engine has a problem.

Remove the lower unit to determine if the binding is with the lower unit or the powerhead.