Letter From Kevin Tillman

jimonica

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Posted on Oct 19, 2006


By Kevin Tillman

Editor’s note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat in 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat was killed in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004. Kevin, who was discharged in 2005, has written a powerful, must-read document.


It is Pat’s birthday on November 6, and elections are the day after. It gets me thinking about a conversation I had with Pat before we joined the military. He spoke about the risks with signing the papers. How once we committed, we were at the mercy of the American leadership and the American people. How we could be thrown in a direction not of our volition. How fighting as a soldier would leave us without a voice… until we got out.

Much has happened since we handed over our voice:

Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct threat to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists, or was involved in the September 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade uranium from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an insurgency, or stop a civil war we created that can’t be called a civil war even though it is. Something like that.

Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it is not and condemns everything that it is.


Somehow our elected leaders were subverting international law and humanity by setting up secret prisons around the world, secretly kidnapping people, secretly holding them indefinitely, secretly not charging them with anything, secretly torturing them. Somehow that overt policy of torture became the fault of a few “bad apples” in the military.

Somehow back at home, support for the soldiers meant having a five-year-old kindergartener scribble a picture with crayons and send it overseas, or slapping stickers on cars, or lobbying Congress for an extra pad in a helmet. It’s interesting that a soldier on his third or fourth tour should care about a drawing from a five-year-old; or a faded sticker on a car as his friends die around him; or an extra pad in a helmet, as if it will protect him when an IED throws his vehicle 50 feet into the air as his body comes apart and his skin melts to the seat.

Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes.

Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground.

Somehow those afraid to fight an illegal invasion decades ago are allowed to send soldiers to die for an illegal invasion they started.

Somehow faking character, virtue and strength is tolerated.

Somehow profiting from tragedy and horror is tolerated.

Somehow the death of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people is tolerated.

Somehow subversion of the Bill of Rights and The Constitution is tolerated.

Somehow suspension of Habeas Corpus is supposed to keep this country safe.

Somehow torture is tolerated.

Somehow lying is tolerated.

Somehow reason is being discarded for faith, dogma, and nonsense.

Somehow American leadership managed to create a more dangerous world.

Somehow a narrative is more important than reality.

Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it is not and condemns everything that it is.

Somehow the most reasonable, trusted and respected country in the world has become one of the most irrational, belligerent, feared, and distrusted countries in the world.

Somehow being politically informed, diligent, and skeptical has been replaced by apathy through active ignorance.

Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country.

Somehow this is tolerated.

Somehow nobody is accountable for this.

In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the people. So don’t be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity. Most likely, they will come to know that “somehow” was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites.

Luckily this country is still a democracy. People still have a voice. People still can take action. It can start after Pat’s birthday.



Brother and Friend of Pat Tillman,

Kevin Tillman
 

Boomyal

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a day late and a dollar short with this bit of bs!
 

jimonica

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Boomyal wrote,

"a day late and a dollar short with this bit of bs!"

How do you figure?:/
 

RubberFrog

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That letter is as jive as the curly hairs on your back.
 

roscoe

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jimonica, see what you miss when you stop visiting iboats.

Yes, a day late... been posted here 2 or more times.
 

jimonica

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Don't know what you mean Roscoe, I ran a search on Kevin Tillman's name before posting and nothing came up under his name. Please explain.:/
Thanks Jim
 

Haut Medoc

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That is because the archives don't archive so good...
Someone snuck this letter in before....
The 'Duh'bya lovers dismiss it as carp.....
It seems as the author is no longer a "sheeple".....JK
 

waterinthefuel

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I thought that his brother was supporting the troops and war in Iraq. I seriously doubt this is legit. Most family members clam up when someone is killed in war. Going public gives people meat and potatoes to label you one way or the other.

Who's this letter to anyway?
 

BoatBuoy

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It's not a letter. It's an essay. Posted at truthdig.com. Snopes lists it as true. Reference sources are Archibold, Randal. "Brother of N.F.L. Star Posts Antiwar Essay." New York Times. 24 October 2006 (p. A4). and Associated Press. "Brother of NFL Player-Turned Soldier Speaks Out." 21 October 2006.
 

Boomyal

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BoatBuoy said:
It's not a letter. It's an essay. Posted at truthdig.com. Snopes lists it as true. Reference sources are Archibold, Randal. "Brother of N.F.L. Star Posts Antiwar Essay." New York Times. 24 October 2006 (p. A4). and Associated Press. "Brother of NFL Player-Turned Soldier Speaks Out." 21 October 2006.

Still BS, from a disgruntled brother. It is sad the way Tillman probably died but it too bad that we could not hear his reply to his brother's letter.
 

Parrott_head

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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/200601019_after_pats_birthday/

The above link will take you directly to TruthDig.
The article is the same as the one above.
It has been posted long enough that if Kevin Tillman didn't write it he certainly has had time to respond.

There have been other family members of those that have fallen that have gone public with their opinion on the war.
 

Parrott_head

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Boomyal said:
BoatBuoy said:
It's not a letter. It's an essay. Posted at truthdig.com. Snopes lists it as true. Reference sources are Archibold, Randal. "Brother of N.F.L. Star Posts Antiwar Essay." New York Times. 24 October 2006 (p. A4). and Associated Press. "Brother of NFL Player-Turned Soldier Speaks Out." 21 October 2006.

Still BS, from a disgruntled brother. It is sad the way Tillman probably died but it too bad that we could not hear his reply to his brother's letter.


....and if Pat's reply were to be "Thank you Kevin for telling our country the way we feel"
...would that be BS too?
 

rogerwa

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Think cindy Sheehan.. Nothing more. Exploiting their loss to promote their own opinion. It says nothing material other than emotional things. It you want to use this to rally the people that think the way that you do.. go crazy. It happens on both sides but doesn't move the debate anywhere..

SSDD.
 

Tail_Gunner

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No one can deny the personal pain of loss, but that does not let joey six pack define US policy and world affair's.

For the sanity of disscusion, can anyone believe a plea for humanity although justly deserved, have any merit on how to combat a enemy with no morale values?
 

roscoe

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jimonica said:
Don't know what you mean Roscoe, I ran a search on Kevin Tillman's name before posting and nothing came up under his name. Please explain.:/
Thanks Jim

Just ribbing you a bit jim, for your recent absence from iboats. :D

Good luck finding anything by using the new and improved "search" feature. :(
 
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