reelfishin
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Re: 1968 Evinrude 18 hp hard to pull start
Re: "the starter itself has the bracket on it that the pulley attaches to."
I looked up both an engine with and without electric start, the port side bracket is different and appears to hold the electric starter in place.
My best bet will be to find a slightly later motor that can donate the starter, solenoid and bracket. The wiring and switch I can make up or may even have one here I can use.
I do see your point about the added rope adding leverage, the rope on the pully here barely extends halfway. If it were full, I would have more leverage over the compression.
I have several sizes of recoil rope here, I'll just cut and tie up one that's 72 1/4" long. There isn't any dealers near by at all, the closest is over an hour from me.
Re: Some Chryslers/Force motors had the type of recoil that you are describing.
Do you mean that someone could have used a Chrysler/Force starter on the 25? I would be more apt to believe that someone either replaced it with a different powerhead, (and it's not really a 25HP?) or it began life as an electric start motor and someone retro fit either another motors side mount recoil or one from another model? I was looking at the one on my 9.5, and it don't look as large as the one on the 25HP, the only other motor I can see by searching the parts catalog that used the side mount starter was the early 50HP's. I haven't ever seen one of those up close, so I have no idea how similar that powerhead is to the 25HP. What ever that recoil is, it's definitely made to fit that block, the holes are drilled round, and the bracket lines up perfect with all the mounting bolts. I was sort of wondering if someone over the years didn't make a recoil replacement for an electric starter? The bracket looks to be the same as the one listed for a 25HP with electric start. The rope starter even uses a metal starter drive or bendix like an electric starter. (If you look quick from the top and don't see the rope wrapped around the barrel of the the recoil, you might assume it to be an electric starter sitting there. On the 25HP, the powerhead, pan, cover and mid and lower units are all freshly repainted in bright white, but the recoil and the ignition parts are the only parts not painted under the hood. It runs so well and is super strong for a 25HP, so I never gave it much thought. It actually runs as well or better than my 30HP, but I just figured that was simply due to it's lower weight. It's about half the weight or less than the 30HP.
What other 2 cylinder powerheads would fit onto the 25 mid section?
(the mid section and bracket look correct for a 25 hp, and the prop I bought for the 25 hp was correct, so I don't doubt that the lower is all 25HP parts, but I now sort of question the power head? It does look a lot like the 18HP powerhead though.
Re: "the starter itself has the bracket on it that the pulley attaches to."
I looked up both an engine with and without electric start, the port side bracket is different and appears to hold the electric starter in place.
My best bet will be to find a slightly later motor that can donate the starter, solenoid and bracket. The wiring and switch I can make up or may even have one here I can use.
I do see your point about the added rope adding leverage, the rope on the pully here barely extends halfway. If it were full, I would have more leverage over the compression.
I have several sizes of recoil rope here, I'll just cut and tie up one that's 72 1/4" long. There isn't any dealers near by at all, the closest is over an hour from me.
Re: Some Chryslers/Force motors had the type of recoil that you are describing.
Do you mean that someone could have used a Chrysler/Force starter on the 25? I would be more apt to believe that someone either replaced it with a different powerhead, (and it's not really a 25HP?) or it began life as an electric start motor and someone retro fit either another motors side mount recoil or one from another model? I was looking at the one on my 9.5, and it don't look as large as the one on the 25HP, the only other motor I can see by searching the parts catalog that used the side mount starter was the early 50HP's. I haven't ever seen one of those up close, so I have no idea how similar that powerhead is to the 25HP. What ever that recoil is, it's definitely made to fit that block, the holes are drilled round, and the bracket lines up perfect with all the mounting bolts. I was sort of wondering if someone over the years didn't make a recoil replacement for an electric starter? The bracket looks to be the same as the one listed for a 25HP with electric start. The rope starter even uses a metal starter drive or bendix like an electric starter. (If you look quick from the top and don't see the rope wrapped around the barrel of the the recoil, you might assume it to be an electric starter sitting there. On the 25HP, the powerhead, pan, cover and mid and lower units are all freshly repainted in bright white, but the recoil and the ignition parts are the only parts not painted under the hood. It runs so well and is super strong for a 25HP, so I never gave it much thought. It actually runs as well or better than my 30HP, but I just figured that was simply due to it's lower weight. It's about half the weight or less than the 30HP.
What other 2 cylinder powerheads would fit onto the 25 mid section?
(the mid section and bracket look correct for a 25 hp, and the prop I bought for the 25 hp was correct, so I don't doubt that the lower is all 25HP parts, but I now sort of question the power head? It does look a lot like the 18HP powerhead though.
