Another sign of the times, from Michigan

jinx

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I'm glad the Michigan economy is doing so well they can afford this nonsense:

" bill proposed by Michigan Democrats in the state legislature to buy an i-Pod for every Michigan student, supposedly for educational purposes. The plan would cost an already-strapped state government an additional $36 million, adding to their billion-dollar deficit, causing many observers to wonder where Democrats Matt Gillard and Andy Dillon came up with the idea.

Today, the Detroit Free Press answers that question. It turns out that Apple paid for their travel to visit their corporate offices in California:

Two state lawmakers backing a controversial plan to buy iPods for every schoolchild in Michigan were among a group of politicians who made a trip to California that was paid for at least in part by Apple, the maker of iPods.
The 2 1/2 -day trip earlier this year covered a range of issues and interaction on topics related to Michigan. It included a visit to Apple in northern California, where the politicians discussed classroom technology and educational uses for the popular audio and video players, said Rep. Matt Gillard, D-Alpena, one of the legislators who made the trip.

House Speaker Andy Dillon, D-Redford Township, also made the trip to San Francisco and nearby Santa Clara County.

The $36-million iPod proposal was unveiled last week at a news conference called by Dillon to discuss the state's budget crisis and House Democrats' plans to address it.


The lawmakers insist that the i-Pods would benefit grade-schoolers in their education. Students could download lectures, they claim, which should prompt even more questions. How many lectures do first-graders get? Sixth graders? How would they download these lectures, and what makes the politicians think that any elementary- or secondary-school students would actually use the i-Pods for that purpose? Would the state replace them if they got lost, too, and continue to buy them as children moved from kindergarten to the first grade?


Is this a great country, or what?

Jinx
 

bucky7680

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

And they say California is screwed up.
 

jinx

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

I love the image of kids using their ipods to download lectures.

Just like we read Playboy for the interviews when I was a kid.

Jinx
 

Tail_Gunner

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

I love the image of kids using their ipods to download lectures.

Just like we read Playboy for the interviews when I was a kid.

Jinx

Jeesh has it been that long ago.............. damm guess i never did learn anything......
 

j442w30

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

Thats the most ridiculous thing I've heard lately, where do they come up with this?
 

RubberFrog

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

Brought to you by the party of PW2 and rolmops!
 

Gabby

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

Frog, you're all over it. That's good stuff.

;) :p :cool: :rolleyes:
 

Boomyal

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

Frog, you're all over it. That's good stuff.

;) :p :cool: :rolleyes:

Hey! Wait a minute! I call foul! Frogs statement was pure and simple plagiarism.:D .....but truer words were never stolen.:cool:

....this might be time to interject another pet peeve of mine. That is what the G'bment schools have become. Ya'll want something different, vote the Libs out of office and demand school vouchers. The best and the brightest of our nation came out of little red school houses. They didn't need no stinkin ipods to learn the ABC's. ...and if your children get them, they sure won't learn them.

When are you people gonna quit snoozin and realize the gazillions of dollars we are being raped for, under the guise of 'Edoo-katshun' is simply going to support the Liberals and their 100 lb gorrilla, the NEA.

Their objective is to make your kids dummer so that they can rise, pre-eminnet, over them.

...and the PW's and rolmops are playing right into their hands. It is a good example of 'critical thinking' misused and run amuk.
 

Pony

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

Makes me wish I was a student in Michigan :D

I can tell you from past expirience in large lecture halls, that anything other than a paper notebook and a pen will become a distraction..... A few weeks ago 3 guys in front of me all had laptops. I have one as well which I use to take notes on, and look at pdf versions of class handouts. After 10 minutes all three of them were browsing myspace or watching porn. I can just imagine what would happen if everyone had an i-pod.

What a joke! Democrat or Republican aside, these types of politicians need to be removed from office.........this isnt specific to the Dems. Both parties cater to lobbyists and special interests.:mad:
 

rogerwa

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

I see a school funding referendum coming to a county near you.

This is pretty stupid and i would be embarassed to be these guys..

the whole school funding issue is a boondoggle. In our state each student costs us $12,000+ per year. The are money pits and if you don't support the referndum, you clearly do not support education. I am choosing to send my kids to a private high school that will cost me $10,000 a year and provides a better prepatory education. The public school feels the need to use our funding for stupid stuff like womens studies and driver training. I would rather focus on the hard stuff like math english, science, etc.. And not the "liberal arts"..
 

Boomyal

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.... I would rather focus on the hard stuff like math english, science, etc.. And not the "liberal arts"..

Careful rogerwa, statements like that will get you in the crosshairs of the PW's and rolmops, et al. :p

They be comin' for yer chirdren! How dare you think that you can arrange for a better edookashun for your chirdren than the NEA can provide for them!
 

rogerwa

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

What kid will be listening to lectures on the ipod?? Half of them will probably shag them on ebay as soon as they get it. Goofy Goofy.
 

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What kid will be listening to lectures on the ipod?? Half of them will probably shag them on ebay as soon as they get it. Goofy Goofy.

Maybe they want to teach the kids about economics. Gotta admit the turn aound sale would net some nice margin.:D
 

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I think they should buy them all a new car....
Just think what that would do for the local economy!......:D
 

mrbscott19

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

I take it nobody here has ever heard of a podcast?
 

RubberFrog

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

I take it nobody here has ever heard of a podcast?
duh... we've all heard of a podcast.

I take it you've never heard of music? Which do you think the kids will listen to, music or a podcast of "Bueller, Bueller, Bueller...."

Liberals may live in some fantasy utopia... but kids don't. They'll be listening to music.
 

PW2

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

I guess the republicans don't have a complete monopoly on corruption, graft, and greed.

I am disappointed if this story is true, but not shocked.
 

RubberFrog

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

More ideas for the great liberal minds to ponder!

Bristol_Stool_Chart.jpg
 

Pony

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

duh... we've all heard of a podcast.

I take it you've never heard of music? Which do you think the kids will listen to, music or a podcast of "Bueller, Bueller, Bueller...."

Liberals may live in some fantasy utopia... but kids don't. They'll be listening to music.

Not only that, but watching movies.
 

i386

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Re: Another sign of the times, from Michigan

I'd like to read the bill for myself but yea this is stupid. IF they want to provide audio copies of lectures, then do it in .mp3 format and let the students purchase their own mp3 player (not an expensive proprietary ipod) or use their home computer. Either way, they can download and listen to it at HOME.

This sounds like something that would better benefit a college student to me though. I just can't see a grade-school teacher lecturing enough to justify making recordings not to mention the rest.
 
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