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Cadet
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- Mar 17, 2014
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Hello all! First of all I just joined after cruising Craigslist in my area a few weeks ago and finding a boat I thought too cool to pick-up. I'm a regular mechanic by hobby and do quite a bit of vehicular builds for various racing types. I was spending on Sunday afternoon relaxing cruising Craigslist and came across an ad for a 1967 Starcraft boat for sale in my area. After contacting the owner as I found the boat to look very stylish and like a fun interesting project, mind you I have absolutely NO experience with boating at all, I ended up meeting and purchasing the boat. The owner who bought it from another guy around the corner a year or so ago said the boat has been sitting for the past few years and without any knowledge told me it was a '67 Starcraft that didn't run. He claims the motor is in good shape and he couldn't get it to start though he never really got around to it.
I've brought the boat back to my shop, most definitely NOT in the need for another project but hey I like to bring things back to life and give them another go-around before letting them rot in someone's yard. I've got the idea in which I'd like to do all the cosmetics and eventually pull this cool little boat behind my '66 Cadillac I've restored over the last couple years and continue to tinker on. Should make a fun weekend with the wife.
Anyways, here're a few questions I have for some of you more experienced guys:
-What year/model is this boat? I've spent some time digging and looking over the models/brochures and cannot still verify exactly what model it is. The boat is 13' from transom to front tip of the Bow, not 15' as the seller told me. The boat is full fiberglass. It has a 45hp Chrysler outboard with the matching throttle controls though I do not believe these to have been originally on the boat, purely out of assumption with the little knowledge I have of boating. From side to side the boat is about 5'10" behind the windshield on top side. There's no plate on the transom and must've been either removed or never existed over time. I am unable to locate any numbers etched into the fiberglass anywhere so far.
-Motor is a Chrysler 45hp as mentioned above. This is the only thing I've found ANY identification on so far. Model# 507H3D, Serial# 1255, Operating Range 4500-5500rpm, BIA 50hp @ 5000rpm, ISO STD 35.4kW @ 5000rpm. Owner couldnt get it to start but I dont think he ever got around to it. Said the 'coilpack was bad'. Looks like one of the two coils is cracked and most likely is bad. I've never worked on an outboard, or any boat motor, but it looks relatively simple as I spent today walking around it and figuring out what everything was. I plan on doing a quick carb rebuild and changing gasket on the fuel pump, as well as replacing most of the hoses and checking the fluid (if any) in the lower section of the motor before even attempting to start it. Any other recommendations I should know?
-Today I did a lot of disassembling and really digging into the boat. I pulled up the carpet and wood flooring to find a full fiberglass floor which kind of surprised me. It looks as if the wood was added later on because the fiberglass floor has some cracking around the seating area on the pass. (port) side. It appears, just by guessing, that there were some form of seating brackets underside the fiberglass floor originally that rusted through. Looks like someone knew that and built the wood floor and then just mounted seats directly into the wood. When I purchased the boat the seating was solid wood and completed rotted as well as not installed, so I just ditched it as it wasn't even worth using for a template to replace. This doesn't really seem like a big issue to me with the flooring if it's not a structural damage but I am unsure of what to do in this circumstance? Any recommendations as to how to check and make sure this damage is only cosmetic or based on the flooring? The hull of the boat shows no cracks or damages at all, and if necessary I can easily repair this flooring area just to strengthen and seal it off before redoing the flooring. I plan to just redo the wood on the floor and mount through it anyway. Just wanted some input before I just 'cover it up' and it come back to bite me in the butt.
-The windshield is a curved windshield and I really enjoy the look it portrays over the newer squared ones. It has quite a lot of stress cracks along the edges from the weather over the years but I believe I can clean up majority of it. In the case I cannot, does anyone know where to find these style windshields in new condition?
-The gas tank was not included with the boat but I'm going to assume was a portable smaller can located in the rear of the boat (as the wood, once carpet removed, had a lot of oil staining in the port rear corner only) and the hose/prime-bulb are only long enough to reach that area as well. What, if I am able to get this 45hp Chrysler motor going, size tank should I expect to use? What is the rough MPG or hour-to-gallon rate I should expect out of this motor? Also, would this boat be bad to plan a bow-relocation for a permanent tank? I think I could easily fit a tank for permanent placement in the front of the boat and mount a venting system to get all the fumes exiting the rear of the boat without the passengers smelling it as well as a flush mounted filler neck in front of the windshield. I am not certain though that this will weigh down the front of the boat too much?
I do plan on doing quite a bit of cosmetic upgrading the boat as I am not only mechanically inclined but also have a painting background and a large paint booth. This boat should be pretty simple compared to the cars I usually build since everything is just a flat surface and I am really excited about making something that turns heads on the lake. This forum has, with the past few days of me lightly searching and reading, already taught me so much about boats that I did not know before. It's extremely helpful, organized, and the members seem really eager to help further each others' builds and knowledge. I look forward to hearing back from some of you guru's and your advice and just would like to say THANK YOU in advance for helping me!
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I've brought the boat back to my shop, most definitely NOT in the need for another project but hey I like to bring things back to life and give them another go-around before letting them rot in someone's yard. I've got the idea in which I'd like to do all the cosmetics and eventually pull this cool little boat behind my '66 Cadillac I've restored over the last couple years and continue to tinker on. Should make a fun weekend with the wife.
Anyways, here're a few questions I have for some of you more experienced guys:
-What year/model is this boat? I've spent some time digging and looking over the models/brochures and cannot still verify exactly what model it is. The boat is 13' from transom to front tip of the Bow, not 15' as the seller told me. The boat is full fiberglass. It has a 45hp Chrysler outboard with the matching throttle controls though I do not believe these to have been originally on the boat, purely out of assumption with the little knowledge I have of boating. From side to side the boat is about 5'10" behind the windshield on top side. There's no plate on the transom and must've been either removed or never existed over time. I am unable to locate any numbers etched into the fiberglass anywhere so far.
-Motor is a Chrysler 45hp as mentioned above. This is the only thing I've found ANY identification on so far. Model# 507H3D, Serial# 1255, Operating Range 4500-5500rpm, BIA 50hp @ 5000rpm, ISO STD 35.4kW @ 5000rpm. Owner couldnt get it to start but I dont think he ever got around to it. Said the 'coilpack was bad'. Looks like one of the two coils is cracked and most likely is bad. I've never worked on an outboard, or any boat motor, but it looks relatively simple as I spent today walking around it and figuring out what everything was. I plan on doing a quick carb rebuild and changing gasket on the fuel pump, as well as replacing most of the hoses and checking the fluid (if any) in the lower section of the motor before even attempting to start it. Any other recommendations I should know?
-Today I did a lot of disassembling and really digging into the boat. I pulled up the carpet and wood flooring to find a full fiberglass floor which kind of surprised me. It looks as if the wood was added later on because the fiberglass floor has some cracking around the seating area on the pass. (port) side. It appears, just by guessing, that there were some form of seating brackets underside the fiberglass floor originally that rusted through. Looks like someone knew that and built the wood floor and then just mounted seats directly into the wood. When I purchased the boat the seating was solid wood and completed rotted as well as not installed, so I just ditched it as it wasn't even worth using for a template to replace. This doesn't really seem like a big issue to me with the flooring if it's not a structural damage but I am unsure of what to do in this circumstance? Any recommendations as to how to check and make sure this damage is only cosmetic or based on the flooring? The hull of the boat shows no cracks or damages at all, and if necessary I can easily repair this flooring area just to strengthen and seal it off before redoing the flooring. I plan to just redo the wood on the floor and mount through it anyway. Just wanted some input before I just 'cover it up' and it come back to bite me in the butt.
-The windshield is a curved windshield and I really enjoy the look it portrays over the newer squared ones. It has quite a lot of stress cracks along the edges from the weather over the years but I believe I can clean up majority of it. In the case I cannot, does anyone know where to find these style windshields in new condition?
-The gas tank was not included with the boat but I'm going to assume was a portable smaller can located in the rear of the boat (as the wood, once carpet removed, had a lot of oil staining in the port rear corner only) and the hose/prime-bulb are only long enough to reach that area as well. What, if I am able to get this 45hp Chrysler motor going, size tank should I expect to use? What is the rough MPG or hour-to-gallon rate I should expect out of this motor? Also, would this boat be bad to plan a bow-relocation for a permanent tank? I think I could easily fit a tank for permanent placement in the front of the boat and mount a venting system to get all the fumes exiting the rear of the boat without the passengers smelling it as well as a flush mounted filler neck in front of the windshield. I am not certain though that this will weigh down the front of the boat too much?
I do plan on doing quite a bit of cosmetic upgrading the boat as I am not only mechanically inclined but also have a painting background and a large paint booth. This boat should be pretty simple compared to the cars I usually build since everything is just a flat surface and I am really excited about making something that turns heads on the lake. This forum has, with the past few days of me lightly searching and reading, already taught me so much about boats that I did not know before. It's extremely helpful, organized, and the members seem really eager to help further each others' builds and knowledge. I look forward to hearing back from some of you guru's and your advice and just would like to say THANK YOU in advance for helping me!
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