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1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. NEW PICTURES

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  • 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. NEW PICTURES

    Hi all,

    So we got this boat yesterday. It needs some things. Top of the list is get the motor going, then the floor needs to be fixed, and then maybe the upholstery.

    Looks like I've got a line on a 150 powerhead and labor to install it, so I'm not too concerned there. Although, I need to do something about the skeg that isn't there, looks like there was something attached that isn't anymore (not the original skeg)

    My bigger concern and reason for posting is the floor. I've been reading all morning about floor replacement on here and finally went out and dug in a little. The PO looks like tried a little half *** fixing, I removed some of what I assume he did. I'm hopeful that I don't have to replace the stringers but I'll do what i have to. Probably wont know until I dig in more, it started to rain so i had to cut it short.

    The stringers are one thing, but I am desperate hoping I don't have to replace the transom, I think that would be over my head.

    This is my biggest project to date, and am antsy to dig in.

    So, onto the pictures. Any input would be good as really, I don't really know what I'm doing.

    Boat/Motor





    Transom

    1991 Searay 220DA, 5.0L, Alpha 1
    1986 Seaswirl Spirit 16' w/ 90hp Mercury (SOLD)
    1988 Searay Seville 18.5' w/ 135hp Mercury (SOLD)
    1999 F250 4.6 Triton


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    Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

    AAAACCKKK




    1991 Searay 220DA, 5.0L, Alpha 1
    1986 Seaswirl Spirit 16' w/ 90hp Mercury (SOLD)
    1988 Searay Seville 18.5' w/ 135hp Mercury (SOLD)
    1999 F250 4.6 Triton

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    • #3
      Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

      Welcome to iboats dry dock. There are a number of great guys/gals on here with all kinds of information. Post questions as you go.

      Don't sweat thinking you are over your head (I am too lol) but after watching FRISCOBOATER's thread (How To Link at top of the page) and asking questions I feel much better. I look at it this way, fiberglass is forgiving, you can mess it up and then come right back with a redo.

      Good luck and again, we'll be right behind you all the way
      SB89

      http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=534551

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      • #4
        Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

        I can do almost anything I put my mind to, I've done a little fiberglass before, but nothing like this. Same with woodworking.. ha.

        I gutted some more out, and cleaned it up. The stringers are black with rot in some places. Bummer.

        ****More pictures****** Taken with our nice camera, hopefully they aren't too huge.

        Starboard under captains chair



        Port under passenger's feet



        1991 Searay 220DA, 5.0L, Alpha 1
        1986 Seaswirl Spirit 16' w/ 90hp Mercury (SOLD)
        1988 Searay Seville 18.5' w/ 135hp Mercury (SOLD)
        1999 F250 4.6 Triton

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        • #5
          Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

          The editing thread setup is working for me?

          What is the best way to remove the wood that has been glassed to the deck? I was thinking a grinder? I'm trying to salvage what i can for templates.

          The PO had a oil tank and 5 gallon gas tank under the back seat. Odd, consider the big *** fuel tank I came across.
          1991 Searay 220DA, 5.0L, Alpha 1
          1986 Seaswirl Spirit 16' w/ 90hp Mercury (SOLD)
          1988 Searay Seville 18.5' w/ 135hp Mercury (SOLD)
          1999 F250 4.6 Triton

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          • #6
            Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

            Welcome to iBoats! Looks like you definetly have a full restoration coming your way. If you really jump up and down on the leg of the outboard can you get the transom to flex any? If so then the transom is for sure gunna have to come out. With what I'm seeing in the stringers I'm guessin the transom is gunna be toast too! Check the link in my signature below for drawings on how to fabricate all the new stuff. Make SURE to use a GOOD respirator and goggles when doing this. It's nasty stuff. We're here for ya so just keep postin pics and askin questions.
            1961 Lonestar Flamingo - SPLASHED...Kinda!!
            Fabricating Decks, Stringers, and Transoms
            Paint Your Boat with Tractor Paint

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            • #7
              Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

              I meant to say the editing will not work for me.

              And man i really hope the transom isn't rotted.

              Where the rot is real bad in the stringers, the claw of my hammer went in like butter. Torwads the transom, everything feels much stronger. Maybe I'm kidding myself.

              I just went out and stood on the motor and jumped up and down and I didn't see flexing. I'm hopeful damnit!
              1991 Searay 220DA, 5.0L, Alpha 1
              1986 Seaswirl Spirit 16' w/ 90hp Mercury (SOLD)
              1988 Searay Seville 18.5' w/ 135hp Mercury (SOLD)
              1999 F250 4.6 Triton

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              • #8
                Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

                Well i had planned to make some more progress today... but its snowing. So I'll buy some stuff and get it on the way.

                Is there a good website or is better to just go to a supply store?

                Also, what is the best way to get 24 years of gunk off the surfaces?
                1991 Searay 220DA, 5.0L, Alpha 1
                1986 Seaswirl Spirit 16' w/ 90hp Mercury (SOLD)
                1988 Searay Seville 18.5' w/ 135hp Mercury (SOLD)
                1999 F250 4.6 Triton

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                • #9
                  Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

                  Hi Bumper,
                  I just bought an 89 190 Sea Ray and found that my transom is rotted, my floor is all gone and the stringers are all rotted out too. Sounds like we have the same job on our boats. This weekend I have been busy on the deconstruction and have removed most of the bad timber and all the foam from the boat rearwards from the windshield. The rot extends right to the bow, so I'll have to remove the bow boxes and the foam filled boxes under the dash too. Essentially I'm replacing all the wood on the damn boat. Not particularly expensive and not rocket science either. Just slow and steady. I found a quick way of removing the foam from my hull. I treated it like a slab cake, nothing less. Used the sawzall to cut it into nice little squares and then hit it with my flat trowel that I used for drywalling. Shoved the trowel under the foam and it came out just like dishing out cake to the kids. Took minutes to remove it all.
                  Once I have the bow cleared out, it's on to the grinding job, and looking like Darth Vader with tyveck suit and respirator. I was really pleased this weekend when my 16 yr old son caame up and said Dad is their anything I can help you with. All good since then and I've got a partner now for the rebuild.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

                    Between me, Brit and yourself it looks like we've got several good Sea Ray restorations going on. Keep asking questions. The advice and tips you'll get in here is awesome. Like I said earlier I have never taken on a project this large but because everyone has helped out with information I'm getting through it. I think fall asleep each night watching FRISCOBOATERS thread.
                    SB89

                    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=534551

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                    • #11
                      Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

                      Seems like we came to the right place. Alot of great info and guys in this forum.(Friscoboater,woodonglass,oops!,etc.) Too many more to mention. Im getting more comfortable and confident as i go cause of this website. After reading aloooooottttt of threads and also falling asleep watching friscos youtube vids (lol). The best we can do is go full steam ahead and just do the work. Im sure we will be fine.Good luck. Kevin

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                      • #12
                        Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

                        Originally posted by britisher View Post
                        Hi Bumper,
                        I just bought an 89 190 Sea Ray and found that my transom is rotted, my floor is all gone and the stringers are all rotted out too. Sounds like we have the same job on our boats. This weekend I have been busy on the deconstruction and have removed most of the bad timber and all the foam from the boat rearwards from the windshield. The rot extends right to the bow, so I'll have to remove the bow boxes and the foam filled boxes under the dash too. Essentially I'm replacing all the wood on the damn boat. Not particularly expensive and not rocket science either. Just slow and steady. I found a quick way of removing the foam from my hull. I treated it like a slab cake, nothing less. Used the sawzall to cut it into nice little squares and then hit it with my flat trowel that I used for drywalling. Shoved the trowel under the foam and it came out just like dishing out cake to the kids. Took minutes to remove it all.
                        Once I have the bow cleared out, it's on to the grinding job, and looking like Darth Vader with tyveck suit and respirator. I was really pleased this weekend when my 16 yr old son caame up and said Dad is their anything I can help you with. All good since then and I've got a partner now for the rebuild.
                        A trowel. Very smart. I was thinking earlier when i was working on getting foam out how nice it would be to have something like that after i sawzalled. I tried the dust pan but it didn't go so well. ha.

                        Tomorrow if it's not raining I'll make some better progress, with more tools.

                        Ok so here are a couple new pictures of todays progress.

                        The trailer is a bunk trailer, should i be concerned about the hull warping when the stringers are out? I may be transporting the empty hull to a different location (pretty much a paint booth) do to all the new woodworking and glassing and such.

                        Another concern I've got is I can see light coming through the keel in the bow, I figure now is the time to address this.







                        That's LIGHT


                        Todays tools
                        1991 Searay 220DA, 5.0L, Alpha 1
                        1986 Seaswirl Spirit 16' w/ 90hp Mercury (SOLD)
                        1988 Searay Seville 18.5' w/ 135hp Mercury (SOLD)
                        1999 F250 4.6 Triton

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                        • #13
                          Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

                          Made some more progress yesterday.

                          Will universal gauges work? I'm thinking about redoing the helm setup with a different layout.

                          Got the gas tank out.. we drained 16 gallon of gas out of it. I'm trying to find a use for 16 gallons of gas that's probably not very good. Boy it was waayy lighter without the gas in it.

                          Got most of the interior the rest of the way out.. and all the wood was rotted. I haven't really come across much wood that was in decent shape.. my hopes for the transom are fading.

                          With this style of boat (built in swim platform w/ outboard), do I have to pull the cap off to redo the transom? Based on what I can see, it would be pretty difficult otherwise...

                          Im concerned about the dash hanging without support. I took the windshield off hoping that would relieve some stress, but it didnt do much. I guess I'll have to build something to prop them up.

                          MY BIGGEST QUESTION!??? How the iuagxcoq87tw087t4pgyqfASD7623 do the outboard controls come off!? I got them off but it was destroyed in the process (it was already in bad shape), right now I'm just thinking about how to get new controls on.

                          I really want to get this thing gutted so i can get to work on the new floor.


                          1991 Searay 220DA, 5.0L, Alpha 1
                          1986 Seaswirl Spirit 16' w/ 90hp Mercury (SOLD)
                          1988 Searay Seville 18.5' w/ 135hp Mercury (SOLD)
                          1999 F250 4.6 Triton

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                          • #14
                            Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

                            Well done Bumper, your de-construction is looking good. Mine is an 89 Sear Ray 180 with an Inboard engine. My transom is shot, so that's already out. Can't offer any suggestion on removing the transom on your outboard boat. You don't appear to have much wiggle room do you? This weekend I have to remove the wood from underneath the dash as well as the bow boxes to get to the rotten floor, so like you I'll have no support for the dash units. If you check out Friscoboater's SR 220 rebuild you'll see he to do exactly the same and he used 3 x2's to support the units till the floor and new boxes were in place.
                            It's 86 degrees here today and the same forecast for the weekend. Although hot, I want to get as much done as I can before the brutal temperatures really kick in. Am doing all my boat work outside under a pop up canopy with a box fan for cooling.

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                            • #15
                              Re: 1988 Sea Ray Seville. First project boat. PICTURES

                              You can cut the gunwales a foot in front of the splashwell like this...


                              and then glass em back in once the transom is done. Not to bad of a task. I would build some 2 x 4 legs to put under the dash for support. Did you keep the pieces that were broken during the removal process of the controls? If so, you should be able to patch them back together and put it all back to a reasonable facsimile of how it was before.
                              1961 Lonestar Flamingo - SPLASHED...Kinda!!
                              Fabricating Decks, Stringers, and Transoms
                              Paint Your Boat with Tractor Paint

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