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1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

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  • 1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

    Hello all,

    I have been lurking in the shadows for weeks reading everything I can on how hard it might be to replace a rotten floor myself.

    I'm quite handy and pick stuff up pretty quickly and after having read stuff from Ooops and FriscoBoater I think I can handle this.

    Will be sure to post lots and lots of pics to share my project and hope someone else might learn something as I learn it.

    My reason for this post is a question for the group. Water is the enemy and any place I can keep it from entering is all the better!! With that being said, my boat currently has a ski locker between the back to back seats. I'm strongly considering doing away with it when I resto the deck. What are yours thoughts? Will I regret not having the storage space?

    Thanks for reading and for answering any and all questions one I get going on this project!!


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    Re: 1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

    They are pretty handy. As long as the compartment drains and the wood is well-sealed, you'll have no issues.
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    • #3
      Re: 1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

      yeah....that ski locker is a real good thing to have.....it also lets you have an instants glance into the stringers.

      as ez said....if you have the locker wood sealed correctly....and proper drainage to the bilge....you are fine.

      as well.....the ski locker is also a place to let air into the hull to dry the interior of the hull
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      • #4
        Re: 1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

        Well, bit of an update. The wife graciously gave up her parking spot in the garage so i can actually get the boat inside to start assessing the damage and it aint looking good.

        Got the old seats out as they were completely toasted from being left to the elements. Surprisingly the floor under them was solid. The floor clear down the center of the boat is soft. I tore the carpet out of the ski locker and the wood in there is gone!!

        The previous owner had screwed a very thick piece of wood into the floor in the bow. Its the pic attached that looks like an arrow. I was curious as to what was under it. I found a large crack in a fiberglass floor. Does this mean the bow seats and boxes are part of the cap??

        Will i have to pop the cap the replace the stringers and floor?? God i hope not as i think that is way above my abilities and means!!

        Guess my whole reason for this post was to get ooops or FriscoBoater or someone with a helluva lot more knowledgable than me to tell me what i'm looking at.

        Thanks guys!!

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        • #5
          Re: 1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

          It looks like you will need to pop your cap for sure. That bow piece is a part of the seat area, and to get to the stringers below, you have to take the cap off. Now, you could resto up to that point and scarf the stringers together if the stringers under that area are ok.
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          • #6
            Re: 1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

            Thnx for the info Jay!! I'm trying to decide if i limp it through a month to get some use out of it this season or say screw it on this year, leave it in the garage and start on the floor project!!

            Have to say, popping the cap really scares the ****e out of me!! LOL

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            • #7
              Well. Put a lot of thought into it. We have maybe another month or so of boating left. Gonna limp it by and then tear it's guts out about November!! I'll be in touch for sure!!

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              • #8
                Well hello everybody. Getting ready to start my rehab project. The power plant is solid, had another mechanic tune it up and took it for a check ride on the Ohio River the other day. She ran great, no loss of power at WOT, was very responsive and cruised the river very nicely.

                Engine has been winterized and the wife has graciously given up her spot in the garage so I can work on it all winter. We have a boiler for heat in our house and it's piped into the garage so I should be able to keep it nice and cozy all winter long.

                Anyway, the reason for this post.

                This is a Sea Sprite 185XL open bow, the back seats and doghouse were demolished by the PO. I'm hoping someone else out of the thousands of iboats members has a sea sprite or knows where one might be. I'm really hoping to find pics of how the boat looked new or to get some good ideas as how to rebuild the doghouse and Jump seats.

                Any responses will be greatly appreciated and please post all the pics of doghouses you like or have built. I've thought of doing some sort of convertible jump seats that use the dog house to be either a jump seat or they can be adjusted to become a sun deck if wanted.

                Anyway, enough of a rant for tonight. Will be on tomorrow with pics of the demo!! I start my journey tomorrow, wish me luck!!

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                • #9
                  Re: 1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

                  Originally posted by Me1stBoat View Post
                  Any responses will be greatly appreciated and please post all the pics of doghouses you like or have built. I've thought of doing some sort of convertible jump seats that use the dog house to be either a jump seat or they can be adjusted to become a sun deck if wanted.
                  Bayliner had some models that did just that. Capris I think. bear69cuda's did I remember. Check out his thread http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=292511
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                  • #10
                    Thnx for the heads up on that thread!! That's real close to what I'm wanting to do!! Getting real excited about starting things off!!

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                    • #11
                      Ok. Need some advice on tools. RotoZip aint getting it done. Tried the jig saw, broke a blade in about 5 minutes. 18v DeWalt circular saw seem to be working ok but hard to get into some places. Hey Frisco Boater what did u use to cut out the rotten floor??

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                      • #12
                        Re: 1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

                        Welcome Aboard Me1stBoat,

                        You have entered the twilight zone of boat owners...

                        Have fun with this undertaking...it will by no means be easy or fast, but the pride that will come from splashing your newly restored boat will make all the itching, cussing, sweating and bleeding well worth it!

                        As to what is best to use for the tear down...

                        My two favorites so far are a sawzall with bimetal blades and a 4-1/2 grinder with cut-off wheels...they both take quite a bit of getting used to operating, but make demolition quite fast...afterwards you can use the grinder with 24, 36 or 40 grit sanding discs to get the glass properly prepared for repairs.

                        Remember to protect your eyeballs, lungs, skin and hearing...most of these things can not be restored like our boats can be...

                        GT1M
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                        Links to everything having to do with this restoration...
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                        • #13
                          Re: 1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

                          Thnx for the advice GT. I made it through my 1st day and the biggest thing i learned. Damn i'm getting old, my body is starting to hurt in places i didn't know it could hurt, LOL!!

                          Well anyway, gonna try some different tools to demo the floor. I have a rotozip with the right angle blade attachments. One of the blades is rated for fiberglass so we'll see how this works. Gonna try to stop and take pics as i move through this, so here are todays pics.

                          First off was glad it fit in the garage, at least i can get it into the heat and work in somewhat comfortable surroundings.

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                          Started by getting the seats out of the way and then started ripping out the carpet, as bad a shape as the floor was in the carpet still had a nice amount of hold. Wasn't rotten and came out in pieces at least. As i started to rip it out i noticed odd little circles placed throughout the floor. It looks like they put the floor down and then flowed the foam in through these holes. Is this common practice, don't think i've seen it mentioned anywhere in the resto threads i've read so far. Anyway, here's some pics.

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                          So anyway, started using the rotozip to cut away some of the glass so i could see how bad the damage actually was. The wood deck is gone, completely soaked with water and comes apart when i drag a pry bar across it. So much for being able to cut it out and use it as a template. Started digging into the foam and of course it's wet too. Seems like it's only wet in spots though. Determined this by looking at the color of it as i was cutting chucks of it out.

                          Cut me a nice little inspection hole so i could get to one of the stringers. Got kinda excited when the top of the stringers were solid as a rock but then my hopes got gut stomped when i realized there was nothing behind the glass towards the bottom of the stringers as you'll see in the following pics. 1 big thing that surprised me was how damn thick the foam was. Must have been at least 6 inches of it. Is this normal?? Anyway, here's a pic of where i was tearing out the foam.

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                          and a pic of the hole i was able to punch in the side of the stringer that had nothing behind it.

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                          So, guess that's my 1st day of boat resto, i have so many ideas running through my head. Every once in awhile i have to stop and tell myself, 1st things 1st, gotta get the demo done before i can start building, LOL!!

                          Hope all the pics came through as i had to edit this post about 12 times to get it right.

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                          • #14
                            Re: 1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

                            If you can get the pictures to post, you can repair anything on a boat, lol. Pulling the cap isn't all that bad. You will need several friends to help ( free beer attracts helpers fast ).Getting supports under it and lifting it is the worst. The demo was always the most labor for me, and it also is the longest part for me. I haven't found an easy way to remove soaked foam yet so maybe another member can help with that. Good luck and keep posting your progress.

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                            • #15
                              Re: 1985 Sea Sprite 185XL Rotten Deck Replacement

                              Great start, I am in the same "boat" at the present time...rippin & tearin out...

                              Don't get discouraged, keep at it...this is the hardest part of the entire job, once you get through this, and ready for some assembly, it will start to look better...
                              at least I keep telling myself that

                              From what I have seen so far in here...

                              the answer to your questions are, yes, check out friscoboater's restoration thread, then link to his youtube channel...a ton of excellent information and how to's.
                              also, check out one of the heaviest hitters in the forum...you will find him listed in the sticky labeled, "How to's and other Great Information", he is known as OOPS! and his thread is listed as #11.

                              Q#2, yes, it can be that thick and more, something about Coast Guard regulations and used for both floatation and sometimes structural.

                              and Q#3, although you did not really ask it, yes, the more you look the more you will find rot...it seems to be "par for the course" when it comes to restoring 'glass boats, if it has wood, and it got wet, or it is more than a bunch of years old, the wood is probably toast...
                              On the bright side, when you replace everything properly, you should easily get another 20 plus years out of the boat, longer if you can store it out of the weather...
                              as for me, if I get it to last that long, the younger generation in my family can figure out what to do with it when I'm gone...

                              Oh and as far as feeling muscles that you forgot you had, I guess that is a side benefit to all of this, it is like going to the gym, but instead of wasting your time and money just sweating and groaning, you will end up with a nice boat...

                              Best Regards,
                              GT1M
                              Why a Fiberglass Boat?...Because they are,"The more beautiful, more seaworthy, more elegant, more easier to get chicks in, nicer, more common, more socially accepted, more politically correct boats."Quote by oops!
                              Tight Lines and Float, Float On!
                              Links to everything having to do with this restoration...
                              1988/2014 Glasstream Resto-Mod
                              INDEX...
                              PAGE ONE
                              PAGE TWO
                              PAGE THREE
                              PAGE FOUR
                              Trailer Thread

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