Ok, I have cleaned the carb. Reinstalled the carb, and tried to start it. Almost the same results, might not run as long as before cleaning. Removed the carb, all the way down to the intake, it is very clean all the way around, tried to get it to run again, same oh same oh. So have the carb kit ordered and do the rebuild, upon arrival. Fuel runs clean and free from the tank, the plugs seem to be wet. Yet I suppose it may not be getting enough fuel. When I dropped the bowl the gasket appeared to be covering a portion of the hole moves fuel from the inlet to the needle valve. cleaned the gasket and did not help. Patience, patience, patience. Webekin