weight for long lining

[57lawney]

does anyone know how much weight it takes to reach a certain depth longlining a 8 or 11 inch flasher at about 2.5 mph ? thanks for any help

 

[rolmops]

Re: weight for long lining

It would only be possible to answer that question if you can tell us at what speed the current(s) run at the depth where your flasher is situated. I use down riggers with 13 pound torpedo weights which,down to 120 feet, give little blow back at 2.5 per hour,but even so,I also have a speed and temperature probe attached to my rigger,because there often are contradicting currents at different depths

 

[57lawney]

Re: weight for long lining

thanks rolmops, dont have downriggers,just looking for aprox. weight to reach 50-60 ft.

 

[rolmops]

Re: weight for long lining

You would need 7 or 8 pound sinkers for that depth and speed.That is a huge pain in the neck.A much better way to present flashers with lures or flies at that depth and deeper is using dipsey divers.Out on Lake Ontario many salmon and steelhead fishermen prefer them to down riggers.When you buy them get the black ones.just google dipsey diver and see what it says

 

[scipper77]

Re: weight for long lining

Would lead core line be a viable option for trolling the 50-60' range?

 

[rolmops]

Re: weight for long lining

Would lead core line be a viable option for trolling the 50-60' range?

I use leadcore in the fingerlakes with a reel that holds 18 colors (540 feet) but it is hard to fish it with a lure at those depths.What does work is trolling live bait,because then you are no longer limited by minimum speed which is needed for artificial presentation.I have caught BIG lakers at 200 feet down using leadcore with live bait. I troll at about 1.8 mph with 15 colors out and then when I see a deep laker on my fish finder I just slow down and stop to allow the live bait to slowly float down into the jaws of a monster.
The regular 10 color setups do well with artificials down to 45 to 50 feet at 2 to 3 mph

 

[jigngrub]

Re: weight for long lining

Determining the depth a bait is running at any given speed isn't that hard if you're fishing an area that has clean flats and/or clean gradual slopes. Just let out the desired amount of line at the speed you want and run shallower if your bait isn't bumping bottom or deeper if it is bumping bottom and wait for the rod tip to to start or stop bouncing.

If you want to get down to 50-60', try a 30'+ crankbait and a 3 oz. egg sinker... you'll sleep well at night after reeling that thing in a few times!

 

[dingbat]

Re: weight for long lining

The weigh required has a lot to do with the type of line your running.

52 foot running depth at an "effective" speed of 2.5 mph

Running #30 mono:
100' - w/ 28 oz.
150' - w/ 24 oz.
200' - w/ 20 oz.

Running #80 braid
75' - w/ 24 oz.
100' - w/ 20 oz.
125' - w/ 16 oz.

Running #50 braid
75' - w/ 13oz.
100' - w/ 11 oz.
125' - w/ 9 oz.

 

[ChampionShip]

Re: weight for long lining

300 ft of 45 lb test copper line will get you down between 70 and 80. Leadcore will get you there but you need a mile of it to do so, pulling flashers tends to take more line to reach your depth. Check out Torpedodivers.com they'll get you down, same thing with a Magnum Dipsy Diver and a 1lb ball that we use as a drop weight.