Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

SigSaurP229

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Recently the starter was acting funny on my me old evinrude. It was dragging a little bit and would only crank and slowly if I hit it directly with current straight from the battery. I decided I would look into it a little bit and see if I could clean it up and maybe see if I could make it last another season.

So I opened up the starter and sure enough, I found alot of corrosion around the brushes and the springs were pretty shot. So I decided I would clean the corrosion and go ahead and for $16.50 on ebay order new brushes.

I waited for a week and finally my new brushes get here I am stoked because this has delayed my launch date by a week.

I was taking pictures so I could hand them over to a mod and figured changing the brushes would be a cool how to sticky.

I wasn't paying attention to where exactly I was putting the brushes.

If you have ever done this job before there are 4 slots for the brushes to go in 2 slots are plastic 2 slots are metal. The positive cable brushes go in the plastic slots, the ground go in the metal slots.

When you are taking pictures and not paying attention you will put the positive in the metal and ground in the plastic and everything will look normal, and it will all go back together exactly right as well. You can even take the starter back out and mount it and make everything go together perfectly. Then you will go to test it and the magic smoke WILL come out.

Then when you see the smoke and turn the ignition key off NOTHING will happen. So In your MAD RUSH to unhook the ground cable on your battery before your garage catches on fire you WILL kick over the little cup of screws the hold the breather box on the carbs.

Then you will yank the ground wire from teh batter throwing the battery wingnut across the garage.

At which point thankfully the starter will stop.

The smoke will start to clear and you can begin feeling defeated.

Smoke a cigarette and drink a captain and coke and wait 45 minutes for the starter to cool off enough so that you can remove it from the engine.

You will take it back apart seeing that the brushes got hot and that no wires are melted through. Put things where they belong and say what the hell why not give it another shot.

Luckily it all goes back together without a hitch and the starter turns perfectly now.

A 45 minute job turns into a 3 hours job because now you get to go and find every little screw and that one wingnut you kicked across the floor.
 

royal0014

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

:facepalm:

Yep, coulda' been much worse.......:D
 

Jlawsen

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

Had you video taped it you might have won 10,000.00 on Americas funniest videos.. Whoops, did I just add insult to injury. Anyone who hasn't had a similar experience raise your hands and lie now. Ha.
 

MH Hawker

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

Snickers, funny how its works some times.
 

duke33

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

Hand in air.
 

MH Hawker

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

In fact just last friday while putting a light lens back on it slipped and the screws went ker plunk :facepalm:
 

Fireman431

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

Sounds like the time in a large shop when I lost a SS 1/4 x 20 bolt. Instead of just getting another one, I spent 10 minutes looking for it. Then I got so mad I threw the 7/16" wrench across the shop. I found the bolt 10 seconds later (right where I left it) and spent another 30 minutes looking for the wrench...:facepalm:
 

Mel Taylor

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

Sounds like you went to the same school school of automotive and marine mechanical arts that I did. I must have graduated nearer the top of the class than you did though. I can easily make a ten minute job last all day. *VBG*
 

halfmoa

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

Don't worry about the screw up Sig, we learn by example. Sometimes it's an example of what to do, sometimes it's an example of what NOT to do. Now I know what NOT to do LOL. Heck, I probably wouldn't have noticed either!
 

JoLin

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

Thomas Edison said it best when speaking about the value of failure... 'I learned 200 ways how NOT to make a light bulb.'

Always loved that quote and just for the record, I graduated at least as high in that mechanics school as Mel Taylor did. I call those my 'knucklehead' moments.
 

5150abf

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

So where are the pics???
 

FlaCowboy

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

Thanks Sig....I NOW Know to pay attention to where the two sets of brushes go in a starter before hooking up the battery :D

Happy to hear it turned out well...!!! :)
 

Bob_VT

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

Then you will go to test it and the magic smoke WILL come out.

ALL wires contain secret smoke........ the trick is not to release it!!! I have seen it happen allot in electronics! I think we have all released that magic smoke at one time or another:D
 

Scott Danforth

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

I am surprised you didnt need to repack the magic smoke. usually when the magic smoke is released, it costs money to have it repacked.

we have all been there
 

TerryMSU

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

I am surprised you didnt need to repack the magic smoke. usually when the magic smoke is released, it costs money to have it repacked.

we have all been there

As an engineer, I can tell you that the issue is NOT the magic smoke, it is the SECRET stink. I have often seen things fail without the magic smoke, but only rarely with out the secret stink. That is why I went to engineering school, so I could learn the mysteries of the secret stink.

TerryMSU
 

Scott Danforth

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

the "spectacular fireballs" are also right up there with Magic Smoke, and Secret Stink
 

Mel Taylor

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

As an engineer, I can tell you that the issue is NOT the magic smoke, it is the SECRET stink. I have often seen things fail without the magic smoke, but only rarely with out the secret stink. That is why I went to engineering school, so I could learn the mysteries of the secret stink. TerryMSU

Do not forget the sacred spark either. Three times I have connected the battery cables on my 30 horse Evinrude backwards. That is, positive cable to negative post and negative cable to positive post. Each time, as the second cable touched the post, I actually saw the sacred spark from the rectifier escape from the cables. And, each time that happened, I had to replace the now sparkless rectifier with a new one that still contained the sacred spark - at fifty bucks a shot. Sacred sparks are expensive and one should try to make sure that they never escape. Now if I can just remember that red goes to positive and black to negative............LOL
 

Mel Taylor

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

the "spectacular fireballs" are also right up there with Magic Smoke, and Secret Stink

Hmmm......Is it possible that the spectacular fireball is simply a more intense manifestation of the sacred spark? Inquiring minds want to know.
 

lexer440

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Re: Wanted to do something nice for Iboats crew ended up in SHT

If we didn't make mistakes we wouldn't learn and half our knowledge would be lost, trick is walking away and learning.
 
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