Simple winterization process / draining 4.3gl

rossbar86

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Yes you need to drain out the water first. Or else the stat won’t open & all the AF will go out the exhaust manifolds.this will fill the manifolds but leave the block full of raw water and it will crack when the temp
drops. Plus running in the AF uses more AF than manually filling and also an engine with an engine mounted impeller like the Volvo may not be able to pull in the AF with just a gravity feed. This may burn up the impeller & overheat the engine! So I don’t advise doing it that way.
Start with changing the motor oil & filter & the gear oil in the outdrive. Then run the engine again check for leaks & fog it thru the carb.
The way I’m describing below involves manual draining and manually adding -100 Marine AF, IMHO it’s the safest best way. Adding the AF is optional that’s up to the owner. The basic principle is you must get ALL the raw water out of the engine, manifolds, impeller housing and hoses/coolers.

First lower the outdrive that helps it drain There are drains on each exhaust manifold (aft end or bottom ) and on both sides of the engine block; one is in front of the starter & the other is in front of the oil filter mount. Poke the holes with a pick or similar to make sure they drain.
Next you must disconnect the bottom end of the big hose up front that connects the front circulation pump & the thermostat housing. Next you disconnect the raw water intake hose that comes from the transom and goes to the impeller housing. Hold this down to drain it; I’d also then hold it up and fill it with -100 marine AF till it runs out the water intakes. This pushes any raw water out of that hose & the P/S cooler on the back of the engine.
Next you put the drain plugs back in. Reconnect the raw water intake hose. Reconnect the bottom end of the big hose & disconnect the top end at the stat housing. Now fill that hose with -100 marine AF till is spurts out of the neck of the thermostat housing. Re connect that hose. Next disconnect the feed hoses for the exhaust manifolds at the stat housing. Now fill each manifold with the same AF till it runs out the exhaust housing under the transom mount, then you’re done.. This is the safest way to use AF.
You drain to prevent freeze damage and add AF (optional) to reduce corrosion. After doing this I spray the engine with corrosion X in particular the oil pan, these can rust if it’s a steel pan like you will find on the older 4.3s same with the timing chain cover. Newer 4.3s use an aluminum pan and plastic or alu timing chain cover. If yours is a 99 or a 2000 it’s the newer style, my old 1988 had the steel covers so I spray them with corrosion X. It does work to reduce corrosion.
About antifreeze realize that you want to use marine AF with corrosion inhibitors and that if it gets below about 15-10*F the -50 & -60 will get hard, I would use -100,it’s good to way below zero.I tested -50 & -60 in my freezer at zero and both got hard and IMHO they don’t belong in a cast iron engine if your temps get below 15-10*F.
if I choose to use AF…roughly how much would I need? Like 5 gallons? Also, I see some people talking about 50/50 but the label on the West Marine AF -100 says no need to dilute. Safe to just use straight from the jug?
 

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5 gallons is more than enough I’d use the West Marine -100 right out of the jug….
 

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okay so having waited to the last minute has not served me well..cannot find -100 AF and West Marine is actually out of all kinds. Supposed to get into the 20s tonight. It sounds like the anti-freeze is optional anyways, correct ? As long as I drain all 5 plugs ?
 

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Yes just make sure to properly drain it, antifreeze is optional.
I get all my stuff ahead of time in late Sept
Pull the boat in late Oct
within a week of pulling it, it is fully winterized and the drive is off.
next I put the winter storage cover on and that's it.
Here's an old pic.....
Time to Winterize.JPG
 

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Yes just make sure to properly drain it, antifreeze is optional.
I get all my stuff ahead of time in late Sept
Pull the boat in late Oct
within a week of pulling it, it is fully winterized and the drive is off.
next I put the winter storage cover on and that's it.
Here's an old pic.....
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This is what preparation looks like…thank you for sharing.

Hey so I am right in the thick of it and have successfully drained lower hose that connects to circulating pump, raw water intake hose, 2 exhaust manifolds, starboard engine block but for the life of me I cannot find the drain plug on port side engine block and not sure which is the intake manifold drain. Looked at VP workshop manual and still not clear. Can you please advise ?

Sending pics of front for the intake guidance and port for engine block.

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Okay I did find intake manifold drain. Is the port side drain plug this big boy in front of oil filter?

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That looks like it; these are a little different than the ones on my older pre-Vortec 4.3. Just make sure that the Allen wrench really fits right, there are both metric and US inch sizes, if it doesn’t want to come out try heating the cast iron around it. With those plugs I would coat the threads with gasket sealer like Permatex Aviation that will keep them from getting stuck.
 

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Thank you…it actually dipped to 28 last night while I was working on it for a couple hours but I did have a binge heater I ran overnight and have a remote thermostat that said it stayed above 32 in the engine bay. I’m hoping nothing cracked. I can see how with proper prep and my knowledge now this would only take a couple hours next time.
 

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I doubt that that would be enough to freeze, it’s gotta be at 28 or below for at least 8 hrs for it to cause damage.
 

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Yeah looks like it was between 28-32 for about 3 or 4 hours while working on it. Stupid of me to wait to last minute and risk it, but sounds like that wouldn’t have been long enough or low enough to do damage. Hopefully.
 

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I really cannot thank you enough for all your help guys, particularly Lou. Thank you. Couple more questions…I did not see much water come out of the intake manifold drain even with the bow down….is that normal? Also, when I want to run it in the spring, do I have to do anything special now that everything is empty of water or just run the hose and fire it up if I want to do it in the driveway?
 

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Well I would guess that as far as the intake goes most of the water drains when you pull the bottom end of the big hose so that sounds OK to me.
As far as spring start up with an empty engine I never liked that idea and would fill the engine & manifolds with water first.
Another tip:
Put your muffs on & turn on the water. Before cranking the engine fill a container with water & mix in some dawn dish liquid soap. Disconnect the hose that goes from the impeller to the stat housing at the stat housing. Now fill the hose with that mix of water & dawn dish soap. Reconnect the hose. That’ll lube the impeller as soon as the engine cranks and avoid a dry start. I do this on my Cobra every spring….
 

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Also don't forget the block drain on the other side, the pix from the Volvo manual show you the drains on both sides of the block...and poke the holes to make sure all the water drains.
 

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Also don't forget the block drain on the other side, the pix from the Volvo manual show you the drains on both sides of the block...and poke the holes to make sure all the water drains.
Thanks I did find the block drain on port side …needed a big 17mm Allen wrench so that one I had trouble finding as I was looking for a plug that looked like all the rest.
 

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As far as hoses, since I did not get the AF I just ended up:

- Disconnecting large hose from thermostat to circulation pump and draining
- Draining both hoses on raw water unit

Is this sufficient as far as hose draining ? This was in addition to the 5 drain plugs.
 

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Thanks I did find the block drain on port side …needed a big 17mm Allen wrench so that one I had trouble finding as I was looking for a plug that looked like all the rest.
I haven't heard of this; that drain isn't big enough for a 17mm anything
 

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I haven't heard of this; that drain isn't big enough for a 17mm anything
It looked like this and the location was shown in the manual I just wasn’t expecting it to be that size
 

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It looked like this and the location was shown in the manual I just wasn’t expecting it to be that size
That's listed as a freeze plug drain on lt engines from what I'm seeing. Definitely isn't the standard drain. Port and starboard are the same size, ¼" npt I think.
If it's somehow a threaded core plug you're probably fine. Maybe post a pic of where it came from.
 
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