Repairing Mercruiser Y Pipe?

tank1949

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Welding aluminum is a pain. It has to be thoroughly cleaned. It is not forgiving. I rebuilt a Y pipe years ago but I cannot remember what acid or solvent I used to git into all the nooks and crainies as the result of corrosion. My Y pipe is corroded externally and will be easy to access with TIG or MIG. But, I need to be able to fill pores created by corrosion. Grinding is the last resort. If my memory serves me, I used a muratic acid coating followed by baking soda and a rinse of fresh h2o and then blow drying. This ate all surface oxidation and allowed TIG to flow metal. Any suggestions???
 

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I've TIG'd and MIG'd a lot of alum. plate and structural, but never cast. You've got the key: absolute bright cleanliness. I know cast welds up fine, 'cause my top 'o line prop shop TIGs cast alum props and damaged gear hsgs. If your holes aren't too numerous, you can drill them thru with a drill just large enough to clean them up. Use a new angle grinder brush that has never been use on anything but alum, and brush the surface over the drilled holes until absolutely clean. I think acid is unnecessary if you get a bright, native cast surface.

Plug weld the drilled holes with the welder. I'd recommend a MIG with a spool gun with alum. wire, and argon of course. I've used TIG, and it's a real challenge if you're new at it. Practice on a very well shined up thick surface, like the outside of the gimbal plate bolt-up flange, or a shined up piece of 1/4" min alum. scrap. Sneak up on the heat 'till you get just a little - 1/8 - 3/16" penetration. The last thing you want to do is burn thru the wall of the tube. You just need a small plug bead head. There is very low pressure in the exhaust.

Also heating up the first weld area with a propane torch helps getting good penetration. Start on one end of your weld series. The welder's heat spreads very fast, and will get successive welds preheated enough.
 

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Ayuh,..... Used freshwater y-pipes are to cheap to bother with weldin' up a rotten y-pipe,.....

I weld aluminum, have the equipment, 'n won't bother fixin' my ole y-pipes,.....
A mistake, sinks yer boat,.....
 

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Ayuh,..... Used freshwater y-pipes are to cheap to bother with weldin' up a rotten y-pipe,.....

I weld aluminum, have the equipment, 'n won't bother fixin' my ole y-pipes,.....
A mistake, sinks yer boat,.....
Howdy Bill!

I'll jump on this too! I have a TIG welder and have welded a lot of aluminum. Cast aluminum is pretty easy to weld. I would only do a Y-pipe if I had it out and on the bench so I could wash it, inspect it, and blast it thoroughly prior to welding.

And to be safe, you almost need to "Dye-Check" it for cracks to make sure it's not going to put you back in the "same boat" (pun intended) https://www.rocol.com/products/crack-detection-dye-penetrant

But since Y-pipes are so plentiful used I would not waste my time doing all the prep after it was out.

I'd just replace it!

Cheers,

Rick
 

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I work at a company that welds about half a million pounds of aluminum a year. of that, about 100,000# of it is repair work on corroded and nasty equipment that we refurb

you have to blast and grind to remove the corrosion, however like Bondo stated, easier to buy a y-pipe than it is to weld it.

if your y-pipe is that corroded on the outside......it is probably just as bad on the inside

oxalic acid works to remove corrosion, however takes a week where the blast cabinet takes about 5 minutes, then 30 seconds with the 2" disc
 

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Lightly used, freshwater y pipes are a dime a dozen on Craigslist. And like a lot of pipes, they likely rot from the inside outward. The inlet pipe on my hot water heater sprung a pinhole leak over the winter. My first repair was to sand the copper pipe nice and clean. Then I put some solder on which did seal the hole. Three months later it sprung another pinhole leak. This time I replaced that entire section of pipe. When I took out the old pipe and looked in it, much of it was paper thin and very deteriorated. It looked fine on the outside though.
 

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And like a lot of pipes, they likely rot from the inside outward.

Nope,..... Not in My experiences with such,......

More from bilge water at the connection to the transom assembly,....
 
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Benny67

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Don't screw around with fixing the old pipe. Just get a used freshwater pipe on eBay.

You really don't want to be wondering if and when it might leak again.
 

Benny67

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My pipe I just took off last week....

Just get another one..my opinion
 

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tank1949

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Ayuh,..... Used freshwater y-pipes are to cheap to bother with weldin' up a rotten y-pipe,.....

I weld aluminum, have the equipment, 'n won't bother fixin' my ole y-pipes,.....
A mistake, sinks yer boat,.....

Used crap that I have viewed on the internet is worse or just as bad as mine. Mine is not that bad, just cosmetic and on the bottom of course.
 

Benny67

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Used crap that I have viewed on the internet is worse or just as bad as mine. Mine is not that bad, just cosmetic and on the bottom of course.

...if you say so.

I don't see how you can tell how it looks if it's not out of the boat.

I also fail to see how you will fix it while it's still in the boat.

Keep the forum posted on your results. I'd love to hear the end of the story
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tank1949

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...if you say so.

I don't see how you can tell how it looks if it's not out of the boat.

I also fail to see how you will fix it while it's still in the boat.

Keep the forum posted on your results. I'd love to hear the end of the story
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It is out of boat and on my shop bench as I write this.
 

tank1949

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Nope,..... Not in My experiences with such,......

More from bilge water at the connection to the transom assembly,....

Everyone that I have ever inspected and repaired had corrosion on the bottom outside part where the last bolts clamp pipe onto transom assemblies.
 

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Ebay, not craigslist. Sellers get rated on Ebay. I've bought 2 over the years. Both fresh water, both like new. Cost me $150. and $200.

My .02
 

Benny67

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eBay is where I picked up two of them. I paid $40 each and both pipes were like brand new.

If you have the time, post before and after pics.

Good luck to you
 

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My y pipe casting number is 44265-c. It has shutters too. I am not real sure what other casting numbers are compatible with mine when looking on Ebay for a used freshwater pipe. Former owner retrofitted motors/transom assemblies from his brother who bought boat from a private owner decades back. He believes boat originally had v6s, but not 100% sure. If anyone knows what other casting part nos. will work, please advise. THX!
 

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What other Y Pipes will work?

I am looking on ebay for used freshwater MC y-pipes. My existing pipe is not that corroded, but since I have motor out for transom repairs, I will replace or re-weld it. I am examining options. My y pipe casting number is 44265-c and it bolted onto Bravo 1 transom assembly connecting Chevy v8. . It has shutters too. I am not real sure what other casting numbers are compatible with mine when looking on Ebay for a used freshwater pipe. My boat's former owner retrofitted motors/transom assemblies from his brother who bought boat from a private owner decades back. He believes boat originally had v6s, but not 100% sure. If anyone knows what other casting part nos. will work, please advise. THX!
 

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Ayuh,..... Are the tops of the pipes 3" round, or 4" oval,..??
 
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