new impeller changed still not working

ljcatman

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I put a new impeller and new water pump on a 1986 Johnson 15 hp motor .
it worked when I had it in a barrel was peeing good then went to the lake 3 days later and was barely peeing just drips also I blew air into the line and the was no blockage so what's wrong going to take it off again and see .
any help please first time boater
 

ct1762@gmail.com

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Did you install the key properly? gonna have to take it apart again after checking the intake screens on the lower unit. what did you torque the pump housing to? did you put gasket sealant on the gasket? maybe installed it upside down? also be sure the rubber grommet that goes into the copper water tube isn't damaged and the water tube is on strait and properly seated into the grommet in the powerhead. it shouldn't be loose wobbling around. if you put too much sealing compound under the impeller plate, i guess it's possible a piece of dried gunk got stuck in the inlet slot.
 

oldboat1

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Check the top of the head to make sure it's not overheating. That aside, work a piece of weed whacker line up as far as you can.
 

boobie

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The only thing you can do is take it apart again and see what's wrong.
 

ljcatman

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ct1762@gmail.com - didn't put sealant because someone told me didn't need it and hand tighted it because I don't know the torque specifications. and it seem that the key went in
 

ljcatman

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does anybody know the torque specification for a 1986 Johnson 15 hp motor on a water pump bolts.

and what sealant can I use for it .
don't have a marine shop here so napa auto parts my closest bet
 

oldboat1

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Use 60-80 in. lbs.

OMC Adhesive M (Ask for a Permatex equivalent at NAPA -- specify use is for water pump assembly.)
 

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Before disassembling the water pump housing, rotate CW the drive shaft with hand and check if there's a rotating restriction going on, if so the internal impeller body holds well onto the drive shaft's groove.

Before assembling back the lower leg to middle motor, place it inside a barrel with sufficient amount of water and with a drill machine rotate the shaft CW at speed, if pumps lots of water out the grommet, the issue could be located in the upper grommet that connects the water tube to the exhaust tube's base, probably not sealing well due to being hardened, cracked or with tube failure undergoing excessive water loss. To rule that out will need to remove the entire powerhead from the middle pan to visually inspect that out.

Other issue to be aware of is : if the motor was used its entire boating life in salt water could already have all its water pasages with excessive salt layers, crusts formations which will lessen the peed out water through the water indicator ? Nope, flushing the motor all day long with fresh water after use won't save it from collecting salt layers in the short term. Assume that have not tested the motor that long at speed to check if with overheating issues, right ?

Happy Boating
 

ljcatman

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well took it all apart and put gasket sealant tighted up the bolts. and it pee a jet steam out so happy
thank you all for you're info
 

cprodave

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Is the Sealant absolutely required? If so, is the Sealant required only below (on, say a 1986 15hp Johnson) Impeller Housing Plate 318995 and above the Gearcase Assembly 435393 (or 438617)?

I have been running for a couple years without Sealant on several 6hp (1985 E6RCOB and 1969 ^R69M) outboards and a 9.9hp (1986 J10RCDB) too.

Is my luck about to run out if I don't go back in and add Sealant? Pressure Test (with soapy water sprayed on) to 14psi on these engines revealed no leaks between the Impeller Housing Plate and Gearcase (or anywhere else).

Thanks for any input.
 
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