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hobbits

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im another beginner.im trying to buy a boat to sail around the world very slowly,but love open ocean.what should i be looking for cruiser?racer cruser?ketch?sloop?ive posted some for sale on my facebook but alot of sailors tell me they are beautifull boats but wont handle what your trying to do.any tips would be greatly appreciated,thnx hobbit
 

saildan

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Re: new beginer

im another beginner.im trying to buy a boat to sail around the world very slowly,but love open ocean.what should i be looking for cruiser?racer cruser?ketch?sloop?ive posted some for sale on my facebook but alot of sailors tell me they are beautifull boats but wont handle what your trying to do.any tips would be greatly appreciated,thnx hobbit
Perhaps you would share with us the specific boats you've considered so far. That way we might help to bridge the gap between those craft, their designed purpose, and something better suited to your stated goal. For starters, what's your FaceBook name so we can see what you've posted so far.

Would you be a little more specific about your venturing, for instance will it be solo or with friends or family. Will you stick to sailing coastal waters or are you intending a crossing at some point.

What other resources are you consulting and what information have you gathered so far.

Tell us what sailing experience and knowledge you have and how you plan to prepare yourself for this journey.

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hobbits

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Re: new beginer

yeah that wasnt real fair,argh! fb name is tom gillette.you can see what ive listed there.im looking for living aboard,and living abroad,will be by myself im sure till i change that,for now.30-38 ft.range,wide enuff to be comfy an live aboard.preferably used under 25grand.i want it to be able to go across seas when i want.i may end up living on it in bvi.so please any suggestions would help?thnx
 

And-Con

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Re: new beginer

For that price with the market where it is, that should be fairly easy to do, and bear in mind, boats in florida are (unfortunately) dirt cheap. Morgans are solid as bricks, and move about as fast, some european boats, beneteau for example, are a bit faster. I wasn't sure which tom gillette you were and didn't feel like facebook stalking that much(sorry, ill probably dig a little more later and find out). Shoal draft boats will allow you to go a lot more places, little coves and such, but will generally not perform as well as deep keels. A good dink is a must have, davits are good since throwing a dink on deck is a pita, and towing them will drop your speed a lot. As long as the hulls solid and the engines good, there's not much to worry about, you will equip it how you want it, and personalize it to your taste. Roller furling on the jib is really the only way to go, roller furling on the main is nice, but lazy jacks work acceptably. Get an epirb, they're not required, but i wouldn't consider going out without one. Many newer hulls are built with full liners, which can make retrofitting difficult-its nearly impossible to run wires. That should be enough fodder for thought for now, but we'll see what else i can think of.
 

hobbits

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Re: new beginer

thnx so much for all that info.im on fb under tom gillette,profile picture is a pirate ship the cheifton.
 

bowman316

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Re: new beginer

you think one man can sail a 35 ft boat?
i would think most boats that size would have 2 masts.
I guess that is a schooner style?
I just bought a 26 ft boat in decent shape for 2500. It is a 1970 grampain. All I had to do was get an outboard, and paint the bottom.

I saw another boat for around 10 grand, that was around 32 ft, with 2 masts, and a huge cabbin. ships that big will usually have a 6-7 ft draft.
 

hobbits

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thank you for that feedback.im finding tons of 30-38ft.w/single masts everywhere.i just need something seaworthy to cross open ocean,and comfortable.i appreciate your feedback bowman,thnx.
 

bowman316

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my primary concern for offshore would be high freeboard (the deck rising a good distance off the water) so that you can take a big wave without flooding.
And a fixed keel for sure.
you want to be able to rig up a spinaker too.

I just took my boat out for the first time, and learned on my own. IT is really not as hard as most people make it out to be. i think It is just hard to sail well, and efficently.
 

And-Con

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Re: new beginer

Not entirely sure how to delete posts/threads, but that ericson should be a good boat, but its got a fairly deep draft which can be trying at times. It should give you better performance, but i often wish for a shallower boat. I was in our 40 the other day and getting into our slip requires going over some shoals. I am now a proud practitioner of the "fat lady in walmart school of navigation".

Basically, lay the throttle down as hard as you can, point for the shoal and pray you can run over anything you hit. In this case it worked, but we now have no paint on the bottom of the keel. Also, this leaves you little option, when you hit a shoal at that speed, if you don't break through you're either going to have to wait for a tow or a tide because the engine in the boat most likely wont get you out.

Most boats of that vintage are good and solid but a good surveyor will check the hull out with something that looks like a stud finder so you can be sure about soft spots. I don't know exactly when they started introducing cored hulls, but if it is by chance a cored hull (i doubt it, but cant promise it) look for owner installed hardware and how well they sealed it up. Rotten cores are a nightmare.

I suspect that boat is a fin keel (as opposed to a bulb or wing) which will allow you a little more margin draft wise; you can work the keel like a plow. Upon further review, that is a very nice boat, the layout looks very workable, and she appears based purely on looks to be a capable cruiser, probably at the higher end of the speed spectrum, with enough room down below to house a small army.
 

hobbits

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fat lady in a wall-mart,i dont care what you say,that there is dang funny.well ive narrowed it down to mcuddy,s yacht sales 2 ships.the columbia mkII which keeps reducing in price,broker says he has other investment option so wants to move it,ive checked on broker.he is very honest.and second pick is the erickson.im thinkin the columbia is a good starter for me.i will have surveys done on one or the other,or both if that turns bad on one of them.any thoughts my friend?
 

reccakeys

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Re: new beginer

When buying a boat you should consider looking at your skills. If you are a beginner buy first those that can be handled easily. I myself is a beginner. I keep on searching information on how to buy a perfect boat for me. I share you some link. Bunch of information you'll see. Very helpful

http://www.firstboat.com/howtobuy.html

Gud Luck for your new boat!!
 

hobbits

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Re: new beginer

thank you for that link.ive found a 1974 pearson 30 that im more than interested in as its impecable and have set up a survey to be done.what things should i look out for on this pearson?is pearson typically a good boat?any help would be great thnx.
 

hobbits

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well i took the dive a 1973 pearson 30.its not w/out problems.the mast sunk 1/8 of an inch into deck rupturing fiberglass inside top of cabin.its in the shop and mast is removed and the wood was balsa and plywood wet.it will be replaced w/a solid fiberglass mount instead of wood.2 dimples in hull port and starboard about 18 inches that were caused from sitting on peir blocking way to long at one time.the survey haul out revealed that and some blistering so dimples will be pushed out from inside and hull will be stripped and fresh new coat put on.because of these injuries i got seller down from 15g to 10g but after repairs it,ll be a 15g boat again.
now im trying to narrow down my search for a gps/chartplotter that has a plug in for radar at a later date,or the whole pkg at a decent price.ive looked on gps store,west marine,and furuno sites.any suggestions on something decent priced?i need money to be able to surf so expense is an issue.
 
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