fishfinder/ sonar help??

BOATINGmatt

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I have a lowrance 160 map sonar/gps that came with my boat..I understand how to operate the unit but one thing escapes me..my tranducer is mounter off the stern and face away from the stern parrallel to the water and obviously underneath the water line..It is actually mounted exactly where the instructions say to mount it...when i pick up fish on my screen where are they...behind me a distance because thats where the tranducer points..under the boat...or in front of me....im confused and i cant seem to find an answer...if the tranducer points behind the boat how can the fish be under the boat...im very confused, any help as always would be appreciated
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jtexas

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Re: fishfinder/ sonar help??

it's ok, here's something that will greatly enhance your understanding of the fishfinder screen:

Only the far right-hand column of pixels shows what's under you right now...everything else is history.

Assuming a standard 20? cone angle, a lit pixel on your display represents an object that is somewhere inside a circle centered directly under the 'ducer, with a diameter about 1/3 its depth. In other words, an object shown at 30-foot depth is somewhere within 5 feet of your stern; it might be forward, aft, to port or starboard, or directly underneath.

Remember that the object was under your transom when it first appeared on the screen. As the image scrolls to the left, it's position is getting further behind you if you're moving forward.

If you're anchored in dead calm water, then a stationary object will draw a straight line across the screen. Try it with a 1oz lead casting spoon, or an anchor or something.

Also, the fishfinder will pick the strongest echo return, and display it as the bottom. But, it shows the shallowest bottom that it can see. Other words, say you're holding over a slope, with 25 feet of water off your starboard side and 30 feet to port. The screen will show the depth as 25 feet; any fish holding at 28 or 29 feet won't show up. That's how come you can catch fish on the bottom, even though they don't appear on the fishfinder.

One final word: turn off the "fish ID" feature and learn to interpret the echo signals for yourself. You'll soon be able to distinguish between a school of baitfish and a tree, or between a striped bass feeding frenzy and a shrubbery. I can't tell the difference between bass and catfish on the screen, but I can distinguish carp and gar from bass and cats.

Note: "diameter of 1/3 the depth" is a general rule of thumb for a 20? cone angle -- the actual diameter of the circle is "depth times the tangent of the cone angle". Also note that a fishfinder will detect objects outside the cone, and the area of detection gets bigger as you increase the sensitivity setting. But "1/3 the depth" is a good easy way to think of it.

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wait a sec, I think I just figured out what your question really is...to the casual observer, the part of the transducer that's pointing back appears to be the "business end" where the signal is sent and received, BUT, that's not the case. Actually, the part pointing straight down is where the transmitter & receiver are aimed at. I had the same misconception the first time I installed one a those "puck" style 'ducers.
 
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Silvertip

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Re: fishfinder/ sonar help??

you may also be confused about the orientation of the transducer. Because it "seemingly" is pointing backwards, that doesn't mean the ping is being sent to the rear. It is actually sent downward and looks like an upside cone if you were able to see it. In shallow water, just a few feet, anything inside the cone would tend to be toward the rear of the boat. However in deeper water anthing inside the cone can be anywhere under the boat to anywhere in front of or in back of the boat. It all depends on how deep the water is.
 

dingbat

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Re: fishfinder/ sonar help??

Assuming a standard 20? cone angle, a lit pixel on your display represents an object that is somewhere inside a circle centered directly under the 'ducer, with a diameter about 1/3 its depth. In other words, an object shown at 30-foot depth is somewhere within 5 feet of your stern; it might be forward, aft, to port or starboard, or directly underneath.
I thought 1/3 of 30 feet was 10 feet. ;)
 

jtexas

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Re: fishfinder/ sonar help??

I thought 1/3 of 30 feet was 10 feet. ;)

exactly. and if you are in the center of a circle with a diameter of 10 feet, then you are 5 feet from the edge in all directions. :)
 

BOATINGmatt

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Re: fishfinder/ sonar help??

Thanks that was the most ive learned in 5 minutes of reading ever....
 
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