Evinrude Vindicator 1996 Won’t Start for an Hour—then Runs Great!! Help!!

KVH

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Guys, please. Help. I can’t keep going to the lake and fighting my engine to start for at least an hour, and then finally getting on the water for a great time. I’ve had it tuned. I have new plugs. My fuel is great. I drain the carbs of excess fuel. My primer valve is clicking, so I assume it’s working. I’m exhausted. Two years of this crazy pattern.

My mechanic seems without new ideas. Here’s what I’m thinking. I think that my primer valve must be clicking, but not working, and somehow screwing things up. I have a new one all ready to install. Yes, I’ve already used the bypass valve to shoot fuel directly into the carbs, but that is sketchy. Sometimes my engine acts like it will start, but won‘t, and then I sense it’s flooded. After an hour of start, start, start, it finally catches and off I go on a great smooth ride.

I guess I could go “trial and error,” replacing the valve, etc., but in case there’s a better genius out there than my mechanic, what on earth do you suppose is going on here?

Hint. Maybe this will mislead. But when I bought the boat 28 years ago, and went to pick it up at the lake, the dealer had a mechanic from his shop right there playing with the primer valve. He said if I ever have trouble starting, just turn the red pointer up and squeeze the fuel ball. Well, that worked for the first two years.

Thanks guys. I’m not ready to throw my boat away just yet. I’m told getting rid of your boat is the first sign you’re agreeing to be old.
 

racerone

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Are you pushing the key in and holding it in while cranking it over , yes or no?--
 

racerone

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All the cranking may have damaged the starter.-----Take it apart for inspection and ohm check on armature.----Possibly new brushes.
 

KVH

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Are you pushing the key in and holding it in while cranking it over , yes or no?--
Yes I push the key in as I crank. My starter is fine. Very strong. Always engages.
 
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racerone

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Does spark jump a gap of at least 3/8" on each lead with plugs in ?----What are the actual compression values?
 

dingbat

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Sounds like same issue I was going through 96’ Ocean Pro

Long story…. after working for 6 months, new primer valves clicks but motor does not start. Use red lever, motor roars to life at the turn of the key.

Either needle valve is stuck or something plugged up the passages.

Still have the old, melted solenoid. Going to put it back in to see if it resolves the problem.

FWIW -my starter was “good” too…. but motor didn’t start as easily as it once did. New starter made a world of difference ;)
 

KVH

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Sounds like same issue I was going through 96’ Ocean Pro

Long story…. after working for 6 months, new primer valves clicks but motor does not start. Use red lever, motor roars to life at the turn of the key.

Either needle valve is stuck or something plugged up the passages.

Still have the old, melted solenoid. Going to put it back in to see if it resolves the problem.

FWIW -my starter was “good” too…. but motor didn’t start as easily as it once did. New starter made a world of difference ;)
Thanks, I'm going to pull, clean, replace the primer solenoid. My lines are connected with tight zip ties. Those are small and the space cramped. Not sure how tight I can make new ones. Any thought on my using a different style clip?
 
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