Do we need to vacuum test Mercruiser outdrives?

DeepBlue2010

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There are conflicting info on the vac test (I am not referring to the pressure test but rather the Vac test). Some say this test was never meant for Merc and it was only recommended for OMC drives. Some also say it actually has the potential of damaging the seals of Merc outdrives.

Where is the truth in all of this? Thanks in advance
 

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Ayuh,.... Donno, but years ago, Don S told me that OMC or maybe it was Volvo, or both, liked the vacuum tests, but Merc didn't recommend it, at All,....
 

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Nope, Merc hasn't recommend doing a vacuum test in the latest stern drive service manuals nor does it say to pressure test them as well. It just says to find the leak if signs of water is found in the oil system and reseal the whole drive.

But as time has proved, pressure testing has helped find a potential problem. Should you decide to do a vacuum test, don't go past 7Hg.

Don't forget to turn the prop/input shafts and shifting shaft as well for good measure.

http://www.bravoone.slantpower.com/h...ive-shaft-seal
A word about pressure testing. It seems that pressure testing is pretty standard practice. Or, at least that's what you might read on the internet. However, the service manual does not call for pressure testing or vacuum testing the outdrive. Pressure testing does not guarantee a leak free unit. And as you can see in this video, there is at least one proven risk of failure. Pressure test or not? You decide for yourself. As for me, if the thing leaks oil, I'll find the leak and fix it. If there is water in the oil, I'll find the leak and fix it. I might use a pressure test to do that. If I have the thing apart, I'm replacing all the seals.

http://forums.iboats.com/forum/engin...al-in-progress
 
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Thank you all. I was under the impression that pressure testing is a mercruiser procedure. I was apparently wrong. If this is the case then, how the 15 psi came to be an agreed upon number for pressure testing? Should I follow this number or go down to 9 or 10 psi instead?
 

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Here is an extract from a document I wrote some time ago. The full document is here -> http://forums.iboats.com/forum/engi...-outdrives/537689-od-presure-test#post5509663

Just one more thing. I mentioned a vacuum test earlier. Here?s why (and why I have a ?vac? side on my test gauge).

Standard lip seals generally only seal fluid in one direction, the ?lip-side?. As the pressure increases (to a reasonable level) the lip will be pressed down on the shaft and forms a tight seal. And this brings up another issue. A seal may be good at higher pressure, but leak at very low pressure. To that end, I recommend pressure testing at 3 or 4 psi as well as ?full? pressure (between 10 and 15psi). And I like to spray a little 'soapy water' around the seal areas while they are under pressure (both low and higher pressure). A very slight leak may not show quickly on the gauge, but a big bunch of soapy bubbles is a dead give-away.

If fluid is pushed from the ?non-lip? side, the seal will allow the fluid to pass at a much lower pressure. This is why there are ?back-to-back? seals on the lower drive shaft (water pump base) and the propeller shaft. The inner seals? lip faces the oil and stops oil leaking out of the drive. The outer seals? lip faces out and stops water passing into the drive. A pressure test only tests the drives? ability to stop oil getting out. The vacuum test tests the drives? ability to stop water getting in. I usually pull about 9-10 inches of vacuum. On older drives you may get a vacuum leak at about 6 inches from the lower shift shaft seal. At 6 inches, I accept that as ok, any less gets it replaced. I expect a new one to hold around 10 inches easily. You will also note that there is only one seal at the front of the drive-shaft housing, facing in (to the oil). That?s because the only thing on the other side of the seal should be air (in the bellows), hence there is no need of a second seal.

Chris.....

BTW. 'Back-to-back' seals must have grease pushed into the cavity between them, or the outer one will burn up. Also, while pressure and vac testing, rotate the shafts (Prop, drive and shift shafts).

Chris......
 

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Very good information. I appreciate it when you guys take the time to explain the "why" rather than just saying don't do this or do this. It makes it easier to understand (and sometimes to remember) with a little background information along with it. Thanks for providing an awesome source for such information & knowledge. Jim.
 

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volvo drives get vac tested to 15hg after pressure testing. merc drives are pressure test only, however as achris pointed out, will take a bit of vacuum
 

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Thanks all.

Chris, my drive is Bravo 3. Does this makes any difference regarding the pressure/vaccum numbers we need to test with?
 
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