Choosing the perfect boat

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Looking for a boat that does it all. Such as seat family of 5 plus friends comfortably. Run in shallow waters, as shallow as 12 inches. Good for fishing. Also pulling a wakeboard & knee board. Good to just cruise on. Also would be a plus if it could go offshore 20-25 foot in length 90hp -200 hp for motor
 

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LOL - no such thing as the "perfect boat." You always have something of a compromise.

The difference between a 20' and 25' will surprise you. They're kinda' 2 different animals, especially if you're trailering. A 25' with a 200HP is gonna' be a slug in a lot of cases if you're wanting a "big water" hull.

How many people does "plus friends" come out to?

What water are you going "off shore" on? The coastal guys can speak to that better'n me.

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Home Cookin'

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The big Carolina Skiff is about your only choice with all your needs and it may need a jackplate. It's one of the few that takes a smaller HP for its size, runs shallow, totally safe off shore, and carries a horde of people.

Your biggest conflict is between 12 inches of water and 12 miles offshore--most people have two (or more) boats since there is no "all purpose" boat any more than there is an all purpose vehicle.

Not sure why you say "90-200 HP." Buy the right boat that is equipped correctly, or add the right motor. Don't buy the motor and add a boat. And just like southkogs said about lengths, a 90 and a 200 are in different leagues.


How about some more clues on how and where you will be using it?
 

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there is a reason I have (and use) 3 different boats. 1) An I/O bowrider for tubing/skiing etc. 2) An aluminum 16' with 25 hp 4 stroke which is my main fishing rig. 3) A bare bones aluminum 16' that gets hauled in to other lakes, and abused in backwoods ways, and is the kids' or company's fishing rig. You're asking a lot to seat what 5 to 7 or 8 (?) people and still do watersports and be able to fish, and run in skinny water?! A big jet boat might do it (?) but you're probably looking at dual engines and $$$$. Not what I'd call a good fishing rig either. I don't want more than 3 in the boat to fish... When we hit 4, I suggest we take 2 boats. My boats combined cost only a fraction of what a the big jet boats are going for. Remember if you buy a big boat, you've got to have an adequate tow vehicle too.
 

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Run in shallow waters, as shallow as 12 inches................................ Also would be a plus if it could go offshore 20-25 foot in length 90hp -200 hp for motor

This is an unrealistic combination of expectations.
 

crabby captain john

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The only way to get all you want into one boat is to build it. Find the best designers in the world and ask them to do what they have failed to do for decades. I'm sure you will be able to sell thousands of them when proven they do all you want.
 

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Ditto on the unrealistic expectations from a single boat.

To go in 12" of water, you would probably want a Jon boat. For the other activities, you need something much bigger and heavier. What are you actually going to be using the boat for?
 

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read 'em and weep:

Carolina Skiff 23' DLX EW2390
length 23' 2"
draft 3" to 6"
beam 103"
weight 2370 lb.
capacity 4000 lb. or 18 people
max hp 175 HP


Carolina Skiff DLV
DLV 238 Specifications
LOA 22' 10"
BEAM 96"
Gunnel Height 26"
Approx Boat Weight 1916 lbs
Fuel Capacity 30 Gallon
Transom Size 25"
Draft 6" - 9" (inches)

( I can't believe they said "gunnel" for "gunwale")
DLV will be better for off-shore; the hull is like a whaler montauk

Carolina Skiff Boat Showroom: DLV Series
 

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I agree with HC with the exception that a Carolina Skiff will be a positively crumby boat for wake boarding and knee boarding. If she's trimmed out properly and runnin' like she should - it'll be a minimal wake, much more suited to skiing. In order to get a good wake boarding wake, you'd need most of those 18 folks on board to hang out in the stern and a absolute BEAST of an outboard still churning out 25MPH.

Otherwise, they are an outstanding boat.

Like I said - compromise - if waters ports are on the lower end of "we wanna'," that skiff will be a good boat for you. If going way off shore is more secondary and boardin' is more a priority, you probably wanna' look at something else.

Budget will also be a driver in the process.

... That 23' DLV is pretty tempting though. ;)
 

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true dat--no wake, but fine for all other sports. come to think of it, a properly running hull should make minimum wake anyway, so big wake as a "feature" is generally a negative except for that one sport.

When looking for a versatile boat, you can find them that do all activities OK but only one or two exceptionally well. You just want to avoid the ones that you can't do some of the activities at all--like a cramped carpeted sofa boat that you can't fish from, or a scoop-bow bowrider that is unseaworthy in open water.

From the hundreds of "wish list" posts about which boat to get, the biggest limiting factor, or conflict I should say, is the desire to always have 8-10 people on board. That factor alone sends you to big boats, that are expensive, use more fuel, and are impractical for shallow water, water sports, and a pain for storage and for some, trailering. And a boat that is rated for X people is seldom comfortable for all X people (and they all have to be 150 pounds). In that regard i bet most shoppers underestimate how many people they will always, or typically, have on board. Once the novelty wears off or when those 10 people stuffed in a cramped sofaboat for 6 hours find it just isn't that much fun, the crowd size diminishes.

at least around here, when you see hundreds of small pleasure boats on a weekend, few have more than 6 aboard. If so, it's usually families with little children or a group of teenagers in a center console under 19' (which is why that design is the best for family boating--lots of open space and room in a shorter boat). Maybe 4 adult couples out for a cruise, comfortable in a 21' CC.

Better to have a combination of smaller boats. For lakes, maybe a pontoon for the slow moving grown-ups and a 16' outboard for the kids. or a set-up where the horde can hang out on the shore while the sportsters come and go, and take turns. If not, buy for a smaller crowd.
 

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Re: Choosing the perfect boat

( I can't believe they said "gunnel" for "gunwale")
DLV will be better for off-shore; the hull is like a whaler montauk

Carolina Skiff Boat Showroom: DLV Series

I think because it is a "Roll Gunnel" design. I have looked at them. Very roomy, wide beam and holds a ton. Only drawback is taking on rough sea's.

Another option is a deck boat.
 
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southkogs

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I'm not seeing a skiff for cruising which is one of the requirements..
Not a lot of cushy seats, but a ton of capacity. Some folding deck chairs if ya' wanna' sit - or heck, with 18 on board fold 'em up and throw a square dance! :D
 

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read 'em and weep:


Carolina Skiff DLV
DLV 238 Specifications
LOA 22' 10"
BEAM 96"
Gunnel Height 26"
Approx Boat Weight 1916 lbs
Fuel Capacity 30 Gallon
Transom Size 25"
Draft 6" - 9" (inches)


Carolina Skiff Boat Showroom: DLV Series
Ya, I'm weeping......from the pain in my lower backfrom live lining from a 23' DLV in Saturday's snoot (NE 10-15). Nothing "offshore" about it. Got wet and pounded to death
 
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shrew

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He said Run in 12" of water, not Float. Those drafts are with the outboard raised completely out of the water. However, that will fish small bays and inlets all day. Large bays and Sounds may require picking your days for heading out.
 
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