Baja NO Trim!! NO Power @ Solenoids

[Rose88]

have a 2006 Outlaw Baja with 496 and the tilt trim just quit working at the river last weekend. Had to loosen lines and ratchet strap it up to load. Checked Ohms @ switch and they work but I have no power to either solenoid. Could this be the big 110 amp fuse I have heard about? I have new batteries and checked voltage everywhere else just not getting any to the solenoid bank.

 

[alldodge]

It can be the 110amp fuse, 90amp fuse on the starter or the 20 amp inline fuse. Suggest checking the 20 fuse first by following the smaller red wire to the inline fuse. The 110 amp fuse is the square block that connects to the starter

 

[Rose88]

Now this morning I have no power to any dash switches, no lights, nothing. Key works but yesterday I had an ACC switch staying lit up even when switch wasnt on??? Also the 2 red lights on my trailer position gauge were lit up too just by turning master switch on. Something going on with wiring somewhere

 

[alldodge]

If your alternator shorted, it would blow the 90 amp fuse on the starter post and take almost everything out. Need to get a voltmeter and start tracing voltage from the battery on

 

[Rose88]

Ok have 12.07 on all 4 batteries, made it to the master cutoff switch. Bat 1 , Bat 2, Both OK. But there's a 50amp circuit breaker there with a reset button and I have 12.05 going in but nothing coming out.

 

[Rose88]

It can be the 110amp fuse, 90amp fuse on the starter or the 20 amp inline fuse. Suggest checking the 20 fuse first by following the smaller red wire to the inline fuse. The 110 amp fuse is the square block that connects to the starter

This diagram shows red + leaving battery going to bolt on solenoid bank? Is this correct? If so shouldn't I have 12v at that point?

 

[alldodge]

We have some mixed issues maybe.
Normally if there is 12 going into the 50 amp breaker and nothing coming out, then the breaker is bad

But you said

This diagram shows red + leaving battery going to bolt on solenoid bank? Is this correct? If so shouldn't I have 12v at that point?

Which tells me the 90 amp fuse might be blown on the starter post. The reason I say this is you have no power at the 110 amp fuse on the trim pump. Battery cable connects to starter post, then there is another red wire coming from the post (via 90 amp fuse) that goes to the trim pump. The drawing above is simplistic and doesn't show all the connections

Check your 50 amp breaker again to make sure you have 12V on only one side, but maybe not on either side

 

[scoflaw]

Some people wire their trim pumps directly to the battery so the transom switch works all the time.

If his 90 were blown , not much else would be working on the boat.

 

[Rose88]

Ok the 50 amp breaker was tripped. reset it and now have power to all switches again. Still no power to post @ Solenoid Bank though.

When you say 90 amp at starter post are you referring to the actual Engine starter or trim pump?

 

[alldodge]

The 90 amp is on the starter post, and looks like the one on the trim pump. This isn't you motor, just where the fuse is



Follow the red wire from the trim pump to the starter and see if there is 12V at that end. It might go the the square block on the starter post (90 amp fuse)

 

[scoflaw]

Engine starter, and yours is ok if you have power to your 50

Do you have power past the 20 amp fuser, how bout power to the 110 fuse.

 

[Rose88]

Engine starter, and yours is ok if you have power to your 50

Do you have power past the 20 amp fuser, how bout power to the 110 fuse.

20 Amp fuse is good ohming it. No power to Fuse at solenoids. 50 amp breaker is good it was just tripped.

Also no clicking sound at solenoids either

 

[scoflaw]

Back track that wire from that fuse.

 

[Rose88]

Got power at 90 amp fuse block on starter but not at trim solenoids. Maybe wire burnt or broke between there?

Can I run a hot wire from battery to solenoid where red wire comes from starter and inline fuse it or breaker it? Power is power right?

 

[scoflaw]

Yes, run it like AD's pic on post 2. The 110 fuse on the trim assembly is the protection . solenoid directly to batt.

 

[Rose88]

Ok, now it works only down no up

 

[scoflaw]

Move some voltage around to see where your losing it. Like hot wire

 

[alldodge]

To my understanding so far;
Something shorted and tripped the 50 amp breaker on the motor and blew the 110 amp fuse on the trim pump.
By passing the 110 amp fuse, you get down but not up.

To blow the 110 amp fuse was a major short, so I would suggest to proceed with care.

Disconnect the main lead from the starter to the trim pump.
Use an ohm meter and ground the black lead to the trim pump. Set meter on the ohm scale and then one by one connect it to each of the Green/White and Blue/White wires. The small terminals will read some resistance and the larger terminals should show infinity.

My guess right now is the up relay (Blue/White wires) has a short

 

[Rose88]

To my understanding so far;
Something shorted and tripped the 50 amp breaker on the motor and blew the 110 amp fuse on the trim pump.
By passing the 110 amp fuse, you get down but not up.

To blow the 110 amp fuse was a major short, so I would suggest to proceed with care.

Disconnect the main lead from the starter to the trim pump.
Use an ohm meter and ground the black lead to the trim pump. Set meter on the ohm scale and then one by one connect it to each of the Green/White and Blue/White wires. The small terminals will read some resistance and the larger terminals should show infinity.

My guess right now is the up relay (Blue/White wires) has a short

Sorry for the misunderstanding the breaker was tripped by me I pushed the red button in thinking it was gonna lock but I had another one in toolbox and seen how they work.

 

[alldodge]

Sorry for the misunderstanding the breaker was tripped by me I pushed the red button in thinking it was gonna lock but I had another one in toolbox and seen how they work.

OK, sounds good, but if the 110 amp fuse blew, same proceed with caution