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  • Century Coronado - Cardel conversion?

    We are in the market for a Century Cardel with the sliding top (not a hardtop) or a later model if we can convert it. I like the idea of buying a very late Century in great low hour condition, but we gotta have the sliding top. So, I was wondering if the later models and the Cardel model are dimensionally the same and if it makes sense to buy a later Coronado and install the Cardel sliding top from a junk boat.

    Although I've been around classic wooden boats for many years, I'm a relative "newbie" to Centurys. We want an efficient classic-look glass boat for use on Lake Arrowhead, CA, one that my wife, daughters and their girlfriends won't have to worry about "boat hair" when we go out for dinner or for the evening. The hardtop is too confining (tossing lines, etc.) and I am told the rear engined models ride better (our lake is very rough in the afternoons). Me, I'm fine with boat hair, but I'd like to humor the women in my life who water ski and fish most days and want to look pretty in the evening.

    Any help, advice or boat leads would be most appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Bill Patton
    billpatton@aol.com

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    Re: Century Coronado - Cardel conversion?

    Never seen a late model sliding top, do you have a photo?
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      Re: Century Coronado - Cardel conversion?

      Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant to find a junked Cardel with the sliding roof and install the sliding roof on a later model.

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        Or, maybe even find and install an earlier hardtop on a later model Century?

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          I own a Cardel and I am very familiar with Century Boats, so here is my two cents...
          • The Coronado and the Cardel are the exact same hull; a Cardel is basically a V-Drive Coronado. That said, theoritically, you could, convert a Direct-Drive Coronado into a V-Drive Cardel, but considering the engine and interior reconfiguration that would be necessary, that would be a costly endeavor.

          • Century did offer an "optional" sliding soft-top on some Cardel's and possibly on Coronado's, as well, but to my knowledge, Century never offered the hard top option on the Cardel. I have only seen one Cardel for sale in the past decade that had that sliding soft-top option. In my opinion, the factory sliding soft-top is/was ugly and both the sliding soft-top option and the hard-top options were sort of a dying bread by the 1980's, as people preferred open-air boating. That said, my guess is that you would have an extremely hard time finding one of these sliding soft-tops, either as a "complete boat" or a-la-carte, just lying around, so you'd probably have to have one fabricated.

          • FYI...My Cardel has a factory soft-top bimini that snaps over the windshield...It extends past the refrigerator, so it completely covers the driver and passenger seat and minimally covers the occupants of the adjacent passenger seats directly behind the driver & passenger seats. It basically mimmics the profile of the hard-top and takes a few minutes to set up.

          • Beyond that, in my opinion, you'll have a very hard time finding a "junked" Cardel as they were very limited production boats made only from 1982 to 1988. There are definitely more Fiberglass Coronado's available (1969 to 1998), albeit, they too were also limited production and expensive boats, in their days. Most people who bought Coronado's & Cardel's kept them in good condition and they have been highly sought after in the re-sale market by people who wish to own, preserve and enjoy these beautiful boats. In today's crappy economy, a "junked" Coronado will still command $8 to $10K and I've never seen a "junked" Cardel for less than $12K. Most of the Coronado's & Cardel's in decent shape seem to command the high teens / low 20's. If you can find a deal on a "rough" model Coronado or Cardel, they will likely need interior, gelcoat, engine and possibly stringer repair so you could be looking at thousands to bring them back to life.


          I might be selling my Cardel, but I'd be asking $24K for it and I am not willing to part with it for much less, because there are just are not too many out there.

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            Most people who bought Coronado's & Cardel's kept them in good condition and they have been highly sought after in the re-sale market by people who wish to own, preserve and enjoy these beautiful boats. In today's crappy economy, a "junked" Coronado will still command $8 to $10K and I've never seen a "junked" Cardel for less than $12K. Most of the Coronado's & Cardel's in decent shape seem to command the high teens / low 20's. If you can find a deal on a "rough" model Coronado or Cardel, they will likely need interior, gelcoat, engine and possibly stringer repair so you could be looking at thousands to bring them back to life.
            I believe your prices are a bit inflated, 1980's Coronados will range in price from 2K to 15K.....condition is everything. People will ask even more for them but in my experience they don't get anywhere near 20K for them. Paid $7,995 in July 2010 for a straight inboard 1980 Coronado on a 2000 tandem axle trailer. I'ts not a museum piece, but it's a very nice boat with original interior that people assume has been replaced when they see it. It has a few bumps and bruises on the gel, but it's 30 years old. The Cardel was available as an I/O as well as a V-drive and neither would bring as much as a straight inboard in resale value. I've seen Coronados that need gutting listed at 3-4K.....they usually sell for much less. You can get a fully restored mid 50's Coronado for that 24K. The Cardel was limited production because dealers had trouble selling them, hence they were only around for a short time compared to the straight inboard models.

            You've got a very nice looking Coronado Cardel there....was that picture taken on Wawasee in northern Indiana? That boat looks familiar. Love the extended swim platform!
            Mark

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                Great looking boat skibumpmc...love the fridge! You may be correct about the V-drive.....probably very few left.
                I have people drive over to me to compliment mine....some people know a classic when they see it. I've never had anyone do that before....we'll be sitting in the middle of the lake with the kids swimming and someone will just drive up and wanna talk about the boat....wife's like: who's that?...me: no idea. I was a teen in the 80's spending weekends on Indiana's largest natural lake, Wawasee. There was a large Century Dealer on the lake, Wawasee Boat Company, so Century boats were something you saw a lot of and to this day you see some very well cared for Resorters, Arabians, and Coronados. I've wanted a Coronado since I was old enough to drive a boat. Wasn't even looking for a boat when I stumbled into this one and I about choked when he gave me the low price....I was like: Whats wrong with it? Given gas prices and the economy there are not very many people looking for 30 year old boats with Big Block Chevy power.

                I did a little research myself and found that the Coronado wasn't even offered in 1980 by Century, but a few dealers got enough orders for them to build a few. Based on the HIN, mine was the second one built and was produced in June of 1980. I'd love to know how many were actually produce that year.

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                    The sequential numbers started with 50....so yours being 69 is the 20th Coronado hull built that year. The HIN has a unique prefix code for each drive configuration, but I suspect that the number has no reference to drive config.....meaning the hull number doesn't give you any clue as to how many of the V-Drives, I/O's, or Inboards, were manufactured in a given year. FA = Cardel Stern drive, FV = Cardel V-drive, FR = Coronado 21 (straight Inboard)
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                      Production numbers from CBC
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                        Re: Century Coronado - Cardel conversion?

                        Originally posted by Tahorover View Post
                        Production numbers from CBC
                        They produced at least 2 Coronado's in 1980 based on my HIN: CEBFR051M80K......I was informed by A&A Marine that there were a few built in 1980 for some dealers that got an order together. Wish I knew exactly how many. When I saw the boat listed I asked the dealer to confirm the HIN because everything I knew said they didn't make any Coronado's in 1980. They didn't even offer them in the catalog in 80. I figured the dealer had just written the number down wrong....but it was right.
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                          Mark,

                          Thanks...I was unaware of them starting at 50.

                          My Hull is CEB FV069 L586, so it appears they used the "V" for the V-Drive Cardel, because I know the "F" is for Coronado.

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                            Originally posted by skibumpmc View Post
                            Mark,

                            Thanks...I was unaware of them starting at 50.

                            My Hull is CEB FV069 L586, so it appears they used the "V" for the V-Drive Cardel, because I know the "F" is for Coronado.
                            FA = Cardel Stern drive, FV = Cardel V-drive, FR = Coronado 21 (straight Inboard)
                            CEB = Century Boat Company
                            FV = Coronado Cardel V-Drive
                            069 = sequential number started with 50 (69 = 20th)
                            L5 = December of 1985 (mfg date)
                            86 = Model year 1986
                            Mark

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                              Re: Century Coronado - Cardel conversion?

                              Originally posted by 1980Coronado View Post
                              They produced at least 2 Coronado's in 1980 based on my HIN: CEBFR051M80K......I was informed by A&A Marine that there were a few built in 1980 for some dealers that got an order together. Wish I knew exactly how many. When I saw the boat listed I asked the dealer to confirm the HIN because everything I knew said they didn't make any Coronado's in 1980. They didn't even offer them in the catalog in 80. I figured the dealer had just written the number down wrong....but it was right.
                              If you have issues with it I suggest you take it up with Paul Miklos or Thomas Holmes:
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