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  • #31
    Well, got the ez hook from amazon, but our current winch strap hook/strap doesn't fit into it. The winch hook is too big. Well, I should say is that the one part of the winch hook fits in, but the bottom definitely doesn't. We also got the pole that the ez hook fits into. We will try the ez hook out, with our winch hook in it, the next time we retrieve our boat, but if it doesn't work............not sure what to do.

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    • #32
      [QUOTE=LuvBoating;n10919625]Well, got the ez hook from amazon, but our current winch strap hook/strap doesn't fit into it. The winch hook is too big. Well, I should say is that the one part of the winch hook fits in, but the bottom definitely doesn't. We also got the pole that the ez hook fits into. We will try the ez hook out, with our winch hook in it, the next time we retrieve our boat, but if it doesn't work............not sure what to do. [/QUOTE

      Winches are often supplied with straps that are marginal for the application. Mine sure was. And to add insult to injury the hook didn't fit the EZhook.

      Ole' Ebay to the rescue.

      I found a much heavier duty strap with a hook that fit. Ten minutes to replace the strap...easy peasy.

      Now I have a much secure setup. The EZhook is too good of a product to not use it. In my youth I used to walk in the water to hook things up. But now in old age Its just too much of a hassle to get my feet wet, and replacing the strap was no hassle at all.
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      • #33
        [QUOTE=JimS123;n10919944]
        Originally posted by LuvBoating View Post
        Well, got the ez hook from amazon, but our current winch strap hook/strap doesn't fit into it. The winch hook is too big. Well, I should say is that the one part of the winch hook fits in, but the bottom definitely doesn't. We also got the pole that the ez hook fits into. We will try the ez hook out, with our winch hook in it, the next time we retrieve our boat, but if it doesn't work............not sure what to do. [/QUOTE

        Winches are often supplied with straps that are marginal for the application. Mine sure was. And to add insult to injury the hook didn't fit the EZhook.

        Ole' Ebay to the rescue.

        I found a much heavier duty strap with a hook that fit. Ten minutes to replace the strap...easy peasy.

        Now I have a much secure setup. The EZhook is too good of a product to not use it. In my youth I used to walk in the water to hook things up. But now in old age Its just too much of a hassle to get my feet wet, and replacing the strap was no hassle at all.
        First, how did you know the hook, from EBay, would fit the EZ Hook?

        Second, how easy was it to replace the winch strap? The winch is an electrical one, right? I'm much more of a "computer geek" than a marine mechanic.

        I told my wife that I could possibly cut (in half) the half-round bottom piece of the EZ Hook that fits into the eye of the winch strap hook/snap, so the winch strap hook/snap would fit it. The winch strap hook/snap wouldn't be as stable (inside the EZ Hook), as it would be if the entire half-round piece would fit into the eye of the winch strap hook/snap, but. We will try to use it the way it is and see how it goes.

        I also don't know if I'll be able to use this EZ Hook without being in the water. Have to see the next time we retrieve our boat from the water.

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        • #34
          [QUOTE=LuvBoating;n10920746]
          Originally posted by JimS123 View Post

          First, how did you know the hook, from EBay, would fit the EZ Hook?

          Second, how easy was it to replace the winch strap? The winch is an electrical one, right? I'm much more of a "computer geek" than a marine mechanic.

          I told my wife that I could possibly cut (in half) the half-round bottom piece of the EZ Hook that fits into the eye of the winch strap hook/snap, so the winch strap hook/snap would fit it. The winch strap hook/snap wouldn't be as stable (inside the EZ Hook), as it would be if the entire half-round piece would fit into the eye of the winch strap hook/snap, but. We will try to use it the way it is and see how it goes.

          I also don't know if I'll be able to use this EZ Hook without being in the water. Have to see the next time we retrieve our boat from the water.
          I took a chance and it worked out. I always keep a spare HD strap anyway and replace them just because every 3 or 4 years. Ever see a strap break when the boat was half way up....LOL. I have...not pretty.

          The bitter end of the strap is secured with a bolt. The side of the winch is removed to access it. I never had one of your type so I have no idea how to replace it. If your owner's manual doesn't give maintenance instructions I'm sure there is a u-tube video somewhere.

          I'm not a marine mechanic either. But easy stuff like winches and wheel bearings and such should be in every boater's repertoire - You have to do lots of stuff if you need it today and everyone is booked up.

          Don't cut the ezhook. If you do it won't work at all. Keep it for next year. If you are powering out and then rewinding a wet strap and then storing the rig outside in the hot sun you should replace the strap annually.

          If you retrieve next to a dock the ezhook will work. No need to get your feet wet. The pole is 6 feet long!! Just park the trailer close to the dock. If you don't have a dock then you need to walk in the water anyway so you don't need the hook.

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          • #35
            [QUOTE=JimS123;n10921973]
            Originally posted by LuvBoating View Post

            I took a chance and it worked out. I always keep a spare HD strap anyway and replace them just because every 3 or 4 years. Ever see a strap break when the boat was half way up....LOL. I have...not pretty.

            The bitter end of the strap is secured with a bolt. The side of the winch is removed to access it. I never had one of your type so I have no idea how to replace it. If your owner's manual doesn't give maintenance instructions I'm sure there is a u-tube video somewhere.

            I'm not a marine mechanic either. But easy stuff like winches and wheel bearings and such should be in every boater's repertoire - You have to do lots of stuff if you need it today and everyone is booked up.

            Don't cut the ezhook. If you do it won't work at all. Keep it for next year. If you are powering out and then rewinding a wet strap and then storing the rig outside in the hot sun you should replace the strap annually.

            If you retrieve next to a dock the ezhook will work. No need to get your feet wet. The pole is 6 feet long!! Just park the trailer close to the dock. If you don't have a dock then you need to walk in the water anyway so you don't need the hook.
            Actually, we were watching folks launch/retrieve their boats at a lake, when we lived here in Colorado before. One boater was backing his boat/trailer down the ramp, something happened to the manual winch and the boat slid part way off of the trailer. The prop, drive and part of the stern was on the ramp. The boater was finally able to get the boat back up on the trailer, but he had three guys helping him. I'm sure his prop, drive and stern needed some repair after that.

            I do some boat things, like: checking/adding oil and taking out both (dual) batteries for the winter and keeping them charged. I also take out the block plugs and drain block before taking to be winterized, in case we get snow before the marine service can get to our boat. Heck, last year, I even ordered and replaced a tail/brake light on our trailer. I also have a small grease gun to grease the bearings (Buddy Bearings) on our trailer.

            As far as where you put the two small screws on the EZ Hook, how easy will that "holding" part slide off of the EZ Hook? To me, it's on there pretty tight. I had a hard time sliding it off when I wanted to look at it.

            As far as cutting part of the EZ Hook, the part we are talking about is the part that fits into the circle part of the winch hook. That is the part that the winch strap is attached to. That part of the EZ Hook will not fit into hook due to a spot of weld. Our winch hook is two parts: the hook is welding onto the strap holder. It's not all one item.

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            • #36
              [QUOTE=LuvBoating;n10922299]
              Originally posted by JimS123 View Post

              Actually, we were watching folks launch/retrieve their boats at a lake, when we lived here in Colorado before. One boater was backing his boat/trailer down the ramp, something happened to the manual winch and the boat slid part way off of the trailer. The prop, drive and part of the stern was on the ramp. The boater was finally able to get the boat back up on the trailer, but he had three guys helping him. I'm sure his prop, drive and stern needed some repair after that.

              I do some boat things, like: checking/adding oil and taking out both (dual) batteries for the winter and keeping them charged. I also take out the block plugs and drain block before taking to be winterized, in case we get snow before the marine service can get to our boat. Heck, last year, I even ordered and replaced a tail/brake light on our trailer. I also have a small grease gun to grease the bearings (Buddy Bearings) on our trailer.

              As far as where you put the two small screws on the EZ Hook, how easy will that "holding" part slide off of the EZ Hook? To me, it's on there pretty tight. I had a hard time sliding it off when I wanted to look at it.

              As far as cutting part of the EZ Hook, the part we are talking about is the part that fits into the circle part of the winch hook. That is the part that the winch strap is attached to. That part of the EZ Hook will not fit into hook due to a spot of weld. Our winch hook is two parts: the hook is welding onto the strap holder. It's not all one item.
              The guy in CO obviously didn't read the Trailer Boater's Book. The winch is always kept tight and the safety strap is never unhooked until the trailer is in the water and you are ready to launch (violation of rule #3.)

              Walking with the hook in the ezhook exerts a lot more pressure than just pushing on it with your hand. Nevertheless, try it before you do anything. If it falls off in the water now you'll know what to do to fix it.

              You surely could modify the ezhook by cutting it to fit your strap. But just remember that next year when you replace the aged strap the new one might not fit the modified exhook and then you'll need to buy a new exhook as well.
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              • #37
                Used the Star Brite EZ Hook and adjustable holder yesterday. It worked fine, but, due to our trailer being 27' long and the boat being only 20' long, still had to get into the water to get on the front of the trailer. When we retrieved the boat, with my wife holding two lines (bow/stern) on the dock, I was able to connect the winch hook to the EZ Hook and extend it, but had to keep running more and more winch strap out in order to connect the winch hook to the bow eye. She would pull the boat closer to me and I was finally able to insert the hook, twist the EZ Hook to the right to release from winch hook.

                Hit the remote "in" button and the boat came right up to me. I just hooked up the Safety Chain, shut off the electric winch and went up the ramp to a parking spot.

                So, will keep both the EZ Hook and extender pole.

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                • #38
                  While you're on the subject, might not be a bad idea to start looking for a trailer that fits your boat better. Sounds like it'll hep with the winch problems.
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                  • #39
                    Here's my little trick....

                    I installed a SS eye bolt right on top of the fender. When the boat and trailer are on dry land in the parking lot, I pull out the winch cable and attach the hook to the bolt. The cable has red paint on it so I know exactly how much to pull out.

                    When I back in the water next to the dock, I am careful to have the fender close enough to the dock to be able to reach the hook. Unhook it, put it on the ezhook and away we go.

                    If boating is a hassle, I won't go. Getting my feet wet is a hassle. All my boats are set up this way. Half have power winches, the other manual cranks because they are light and easy to handle. Then only boat that requires me to go swimming is our jetski, but its only 10 feet long so I have to back in further, and I have water shoes on anyway.
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                    • #40
                      It doesn't really bother me to get my feet wet. I always wear a pair of tennis shoes, with over-the-calf socks on. I really don't notice how wet my feet/tennis shoes/socks are until we get home. They are soaking wet, but are wet. The tennis shoes go outside into the sun and the socks go into the laundry room. By the next morning, all is dry!

                      But, am going to try and NOT back the trailer in so far and see how that works. Into the water or not, I still have to step up onto the trailer to unhook the winch strap from the bow eye. And then, if my wife is unable to pull/float the boat off of the trailer, I will have to back it in further.

                      One thing for sure, we are no longer as young as we were back in 2003, when we bought our first boat. It was smaller and lighter. A 4-cyclinder compared to an 8-cyclinder now.

                      We were pretty bushed yesterday when we got home! One more summer and our boating days will come to an end.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by LuvBoating View Post
                        It doesn't really bother me to get my feet wet. I always wear a pair of tennis shoes, with over-the-calf socks on. I really don't notice how wet my feet/tennis shoes/socks are until we get home. They are soaking wet, but are wet. The tennis shoes go outside into the sun and the socks go into the laundry room. By the next morning, all is dry!

                        But, am going to try and NOT back the trailer in so far and see how that works. Into the water or not, I still have to step up onto the trailer to unhook the winch strap from the bow eye. And then, if my wife is unable to pull/float the boat off of the trailer, I will have to back it in further.

                        One thing for sure, we are no longer as young as we were back in 2003, when we bought our first boat. It was smaller and lighter. A 4-cyclinder compared to an 8-cyclinder now.

                        We were pretty bushed yesterday when we got home! One more summer and our boating days will come to an end.
                        Well I hope you have many more years to come.

                        I have been a boater for 65 years, and have owned my own boat for 52 years. My first mate started with me 50 years ago this month.

                        We both have arthritis and that's why the cold water bothers me if we launch early or late in the year. All our boats are set up for easy peasy. My biggest problem is backing down the driveway into the garage when someone has parked there while we were gone.

                        Nevertheless, we are both in our 70's and still ride our Jetski. Not like we stole it, but at a reasonable speed below about 40 mph.
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                        • #42
                          In my case I have a SS eye bolt attached to the top of my fenders. While in the parking lot I pull out the winch cable and hook it to the eye. Then I back in and step on the fender, unhook the hook and reattach it to the bow eye. I can reach it from the fender, but not from the dock.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by babubhaiya382 View Post
                            In my case I have a SS eye bolt attached to the top of my fenders. While in the parking lot I pull out the winch cable and hook it to the eye. Then I back in and step on the fender, unhook the hook and reattach it to the bow eye. I can reach it from the fender, but not from the dock.
                            And your point is.....Bubba?
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by JimS123 View Post

                              And your point is.....Bubba?
                              He keeping an eye on the problem. Too bad it won't help LuvBoating.
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                              • #45
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                                Update: We have now used the EZ Hook and Extender Pole twice and it is working good for us. No return for this! Our winch strap hook is slightly bigger than the EZ Hook, but it still clips in and holds. I simply insert the winch hook into the EZ Hook, extend the pole, reach out to the eye on the bow (as my wife pulls the boat forward onto the trailer) and hook the eye. Hit the reverse button on the electric winch remote and watch the bow come right up to me!

                                So much easier for us than using the old manual winch.

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