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  • Dear Community Members,

    Updated 9/29/20 - Upgrades have been pushed until 10/7/20

    Over the last two years, there have been updates to the environment that have introduced challenges in usability, performance, and security. Efforts to improve the technology, user interface and site performance have revealed weaknesses in the platform and outdated software our site uses. This has made it increasingly difficult and frustrating to support and upgrade to more modern reliable standards that users deserve. This is not the experience we want for the members of this community.

    Members want a fast site that performs well across all devices, to be able to find relevant and interesting content, and easily share through text, images, video, and messaging on a secure platform. Our goal is to provide this user experience to all members. We will be updating to a new platform to better meet the needs of this community and allow us to provide support more efficiently. Our focus is to create a sustainable platform that performs well and loads faster on all devices while offering seamless ways to search and connect. Technology is constantly innovating - by creating an environment that we control we can maintain the site with more frequent improvements and maintenance updates.

    Although change can be difficult, we are here to support you through the process. We make every effort to review existing settings and make the changes needed so the migration goes smoothly. If you notice something doesn’t seem correct once the site goes live, don’t panic! We’ll have a dedicated person monitoring as the site goes live to answer any questions and provide support through this change.

    What’s next?
    When will this be happening? The plan is to put our current forums into maintenance mode (off line) at around 9am MST on 10/7/2020! The whole transition should take 30-36 hours. We recognize the user experience is slow and there are bugs from the outdated software. The sooner we can change that the better we can make the experience for you. You’ll start to see activity related to cleanup in preparation for migration very shortly. We will post an announcement to the community prior to starting the actual data migration.

    We appreciate each member’s contribution to this community and look forward to an improved experience for you all.

    - Management


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    Was looking at buying this new underwater toy that you pull behind A boat at slow no wake speed. It’s a Subwing towable. Before buying we used our friends and had a blast. Works as a dive stick and you can cruise underwater around drop offs or cool coves. Will shoot you up and down petty quick to get more air to dive back down again. We boat in northern Michigan and our friends where stopped last weekend by the DNR when they where using these Subwing. After awhile the DNR got back to them and said that we have to wear a PFD when being pulled behind a boat when using these sub wings. You would have to go online and watch a video on this Subwing to see what I mean.... but diving thru the water like a fish and now having to wear a PFD...wait what....I know right. So now am Not sure if where buying this now. Any help on this would be great! Would a divers flag at surface help not have to wear a PFD?

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    I think you're out of luck. A diver's flag won't help. You are declaring a no boating zone and technically may be breaking the law by zooming around in a moving diver down area. And someone is still being towed requiring a PFD.
    Please, no PM's (Private Messages) regarding boat/engine problems.
    That is what the forums are for.
    Only forum/moderator issues will be answered in PM's.