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  • looking for 30-32 foot crusier

    Hello I'm looking to purchase a 1994-97 300 sundancer with 5.7 alpha drives. Just wondering if anyone finds it weird or not practical having the galley port side right when you walk down the stairs on the 300 and seems less counter space also. I've never owned a sea ray before this would be my first. Any other things to look out for on these year models any info is helpful thanks. I boat mostly lake Eire lake st. clair area. Also im open to an other suggestions on boat models my only preferences are to keep it around 30-32 foot w10'+ beam, and I/O power and most likely from 1994-2000 to keep it within my budget.

  • #2
    keep in mind your looking at boats that are coming up on their end of life based on the design life. cruisers in that range have a life expectancy of 20-25 years, so expect to have some major issues crop up.
    Cheesehead boating the Gulf Coast of FLA 27.51° N, 82.53° W

    1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - https://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

    Past Boats
    1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
    2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheeseheads in Paradise"
    1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

    What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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    • #3
      yes I know this unfortunately cant afford to spend 250k on a new one haha.

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      • #4
        You also can not afford a money pit
        Cheesehead boating the Gulf Coast of FLA 27.51° N, 82.53° W

        1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - https://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

        Past Boats
        1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
        2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheeseheads in Paradise"
        1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

        What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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        • #5
          Don't fret about which side or even where the galley is,
          just get on the thing and use it,


          l'm going to a wooden boat show on the weekend, full of of old wooden tall ships that still sail all over the planet,
          haven't got the heart...or the balls ...to tell them their boats are at the end of their life.

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          • #6
            If you're looking at buying an older SeaRay I'd pose the question over at club SeaRay. They'll tell you what to look for. Structural rot is something you want to watch out for & don't buy something that old without a full survey.

            http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php

            I love this guy, he did a review of my 250 Sundancer and other larger SeaRays. Good, informative reading.

            https://www.yachtsurvey.com
            1997 SeaRay 250 Sundancer "Blind Date"
            1979 GlastronCarlson CVX18 "Back in Black"
            1985 GlastronCarlson CVX18 " Had to Have it

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            • #7
              Once you get into boats that old, I think you'd be better served shopping for something with much higher initial build quality, even if it means going older. IMO an 80's vintage Tiara Open or Express Cruiser with inboard power would be a much better buy than a 90s Sea Ray with stern drives. Much less stuff to fail with inboards and vastly superior attention to detail in the bones of the Tiara. The inboards are much easier to maintain when the boat is kept in a slip too.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tassie 1 View Post
                Don't fret about which side or even where the galley is,
                just get on the thing and use it,


                l'm going to a wooden boat show on the weekend, full of of old wooden tall ships that still sail all over the planet,
                haven't got the heart...or the balls ...to tell them their boats are at the end of their life.
                old wooden boats covered in pine tar sitting in salt water do not have an end of life like todays boats. the mere design required constant maintenance.

                a fiberglass boat on the other hand does. plastic and rubber components have a finite life, adhesives as well. and while you can sink and re-float an old wooden boat numerous times, GRP boats tend to trap water where water was never intended to be which causes most of the problems.
                Cheesehead boating the Gulf Coast of FLA 27.51° N, 82.53° W

                1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - https://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

                Past Boats
                1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
                2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheeseheads in Paradise"
                1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

                What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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                • #9
                  All boats require constant maintenance, regardless of age or location, fresh or salt,
                  you know that,
                  that's why this forum is so popular lol

                  I'm not sure that everyone needs to break out in a sweat or have a heart attack coz their boat is approaching 20 yrs design life,

                  of the 4 boats we currently own none is anywhere near 20 yrs old,
                  one is approaching 50 yrs,

                  how old is your boat again?
                  just pullin' ya chain

                  anywho, the last thing l 'd consider in a 30ft boat is the amount...or lack thereof...of counter space,

                  and l do have a 30 ft 10 ft beam 5.7 ( 2 ) powered cruiser though its not an express sports cruiser

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tassie 1 View Post
                    how old is your boat again?
                    31 years old, currently going thru a complete restoration including a new motor, new interior, and new gelcoat. Windows will be re-glazed, a radar arch is being added, a new custom dash and instruments. 3 years prior the drive was rebuilt. 7 years ago, a motor refresh, transom replacement, and stringer work. 9 years ago, the drive was re-sealed and the interior was redone.

                    On its 3rd trailer

                    My boat is on its 2nd or third life
                    Cheesehead boating the Gulf Coast of FLA 27.51° N, 82.53° W

                    1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - https://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

                    Past Boats
                    1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
                    2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheeseheads in Paradise"
                    1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

                    What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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                    • #11
                      Personally. I think the term "design life" doesn't really apply here.

                      A few years ago I came upon one of my previous fiberglass boats at a lawn sale and it looked just like the day I bought it brand new 40 years earlier. The second owner garage kept it just like I did and it still looked like new. A glance at the hour meter showed that the boat was well used. It showed up again, after sitting outside uncovered year round in Buffalo, NY weather. Now at 43 years old it was completely trashed.

                      Maybe a better term would be "typical life". The way "typical" dumb axx boaters treat their boats, that's about all they are good for. I've seen 5 year old boats that were worthless, and 50 year old boats that were pristine.

                      Our "family boat" is 66 years old and is all original - never been "restored" or had any parts replaced.
                      2019 SeaRay SPX 190 OB & Mercury 150 4-Stroke & Merc 5.0 Kicker
                      2017 Boston Whaler 150 Montauk & Mercury 60 ELPT Command Thrust & Merc 3.5 Kicker
                      2015 Yamaha FX Cruiser HO
                      1964 Sea Nymph 14R & 1970 Evinrude Sportwin 9.5
                      1960 Mulray 100 Dinghy, equipped with Beaver Oars
                      1952 Lyman 15' Mid Steer & Evinrude Big Twin 25
                      69 Outboards: 1919-2019, representing 11 manufacturers
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                      • #12
                        For those with a Champagne taste and Beer budget the last thing I would be concerned with is where the galley is. If like most working folks on a budget for a cruiser never leave the slip anyway. I'm on Erie as well and can say without a doubt 80% of the cruisers out here never venture far from the Marina's. More like 90%. I said in another thread I know a guy moored near us that doesn't even have an engine!!!
                        Experience is a lifetime of mistakes, wisdom is not making them again.

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                        • #13
                          Just got rid of a Larson 330 cabrio that was a great boat (needed to down size), on plane at 17mph,twin 5.7 volvo penta with dou props and to me (a dyi guy) much easy to work on than a merc. probably in your price range and plenty of room. Just saying take a look and don't get hung up on one boat brand. Oh and spend the money on a surveyor, then decide what you can live with and what you can repair your self

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                          • #14
                            [QUOTE][Just saying take a look and don't get hung up on one boat brand.QUOTE]

                            I always say buy based on style, layout & amenities........may be more than one boat you like. The name on the side isn't important.Then find one worth buying or CONDITION, CONDITION,CONDITION.......well duh!

                            It's a toy, if there isn't some emotion in the purchase your not doing it right!
                            1997 SeaRay 250 Sundancer "Blind Date"
                            1979 GlastronCarlson CVX18 "Back in Black"
                            1985 GlastronCarlson CVX18 " Had to Have it

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                            • #15
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                              Well said!

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