sunshine_n_pc
Cadet
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This is an updated post from previous post - starting a new one so that people don't have to wade through my learning curve. Problem has been ongoing difficulties with cold start that has progressed to no start when cold. Several issues have been fixed that were probably contributing issues - bad cables and corroded connections.
CURRENT problem: motor won't start when cold, if it is warm it starts up perfectly and runs great - if it sits after you try, unsuccessfully, to start it, the plugs are wet - it will start if you spray carb cleaner into the carbs
Boat has been at mechanic for 2 weeks - we initially took it to him to just help us diagnose the problem - he was pretty confident that he'd know what it was in an hour. I picked up the boat yesterday - not because it is fixed but because the mechanic says he has exhausted all he knows to do - he's been in contact with yamaha several times who says there is no reason boat isn't starting when cold.
So....I am determined to find the answer - have a bet going with the husband - I know there are those of you out there who are saying "she's a girl...she is wasting my time'....But, I am my father's daughter.....he could fix anything by reading a book, I might not have the up front knowledge, but I am putting in the time to understand this stuff. I rebuilt the carbs on MY 99 XLT 1200ltd - me, with the greenhulk forum knowledge - my husband did his own - I even painted and posted pics So, to provide some extra incentive for help - I will send a batch of fresh homemade pear pie cookies made from pears picked from my yard to whoever helps me win the bet and find the daggum answer to this motor's problem. I hear the scallops are plentiful and they are calling my name every time I close my eyes.
here's what I know:
1. model is C115TXRW
2. battery cables replaced, voltage checked and seems to be good
3. new ignition switch
4. batteries are new this season and check out good
5. starter checked out and good
6. linkage has been checked and solenoid is good
7. connections and cables have been checked
8. butterflies are closing
9. carbs have been checked and clean
10. bulb was tested and is not backleaking
11. correct procedures are being used for starting motor
- all of this was done by local mechanic - husband is an electrician and rebuilds cars as hobby - mechanic is very reliable with great reputation - he does not just start replacing things (ex: first thing yamaha said was "rebuild carbs", which he didn't 'cause he knew that wasn't the first place to start). He was willing to find the problem and then let my husband fix it - but, he finally had to give up b/c he needed to get back to making money, which I so understand.
My thoughts....he must have missed something. He has done everything that I have read listed in the 100's of posts I have read related to this issue. This seems to be a common problem - mechanic really thought he'd have it diagnosed and fixed in one hour - for his sake I'd hate to know how much time he actually has in thinking, looking, talking and working on it - I baked him a pear pie - probably need to send him one a week.
My question.....with what is currently occurring, any ideas as where to start? What would be the most likely cause of no cold start and wet plugs?
We really need to get this fixed - we have 3 adopted young girls with special needs - it would not be good to go out on boat with them a rely on the "spray the carbs" method.
I am determined that this is not gonna beat me - help!!!
CURRENT problem: motor won't start when cold, if it is warm it starts up perfectly and runs great - if it sits after you try, unsuccessfully, to start it, the plugs are wet - it will start if you spray carb cleaner into the carbs
Boat has been at mechanic for 2 weeks - we initially took it to him to just help us diagnose the problem - he was pretty confident that he'd know what it was in an hour. I picked up the boat yesterday - not because it is fixed but because the mechanic says he has exhausted all he knows to do - he's been in contact with yamaha several times who says there is no reason boat isn't starting when cold.
So....I am determined to find the answer - have a bet going with the husband - I know there are those of you out there who are saying "she's a girl...she is wasting my time'....But, I am my father's daughter.....he could fix anything by reading a book, I might not have the up front knowledge, but I am putting in the time to understand this stuff. I rebuilt the carbs on MY 99 XLT 1200ltd - me, with the greenhulk forum knowledge - my husband did his own - I even painted and posted pics So, to provide some extra incentive for help - I will send a batch of fresh homemade pear pie cookies made from pears picked from my yard to whoever helps me win the bet and find the daggum answer to this motor's problem. I hear the scallops are plentiful and they are calling my name every time I close my eyes.
here's what I know:
1. model is C115TXRW
2. battery cables replaced, voltage checked and seems to be good
3. new ignition switch
4. batteries are new this season and check out good
5. starter checked out and good
6. linkage has been checked and solenoid is good
7. connections and cables have been checked
8. butterflies are closing
9. carbs have been checked and clean
10. bulb was tested and is not backleaking
11. correct procedures are being used for starting motor
- all of this was done by local mechanic - husband is an electrician and rebuilds cars as hobby - mechanic is very reliable with great reputation - he does not just start replacing things (ex: first thing yamaha said was "rebuild carbs", which he didn't 'cause he knew that wasn't the first place to start). He was willing to find the problem and then let my husband fix it - but, he finally had to give up b/c he needed to get back to making money, which I so understand.
My thoughts....he must have missed something. He has done everything that I have read listed in the 100's of posts I have read related to this issue. This seems to be a common problem - mechanic really thought he'd have it diagnosed and fixed in one hour - for his sake I'd hate to know how much time he actually has in thinking, looking, talking and working on it - I baked him a pear pie - probably need to send him one a week.
My question.....with what is currently occurring, any ideas as where to start? What would be the most likely cause of no cold start and wet plugs?
We really need to get this fixed - we have 3 adopted young girls with special needs - it would not be good to go out on boat with them a rely on the "spray the carbs" method.
I am determined that this is not gonna beat me - help!!!