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  • #46
    Ok so even with the wrong info from the Evinrude dealer I should still have the correct cable.
    BRP / Evinrude part number - 0987661

    According to this - the L or R does refer to rotation http://www.sterndrive.info/model_numbers.html

    However that doesn’t give any L regular rotation power steering option. All 4 with P for power steering are all R. I do have power steering and L regular rotation 100%.
    Either way pretty sure and hoping I got the right cable.

    As for the screw I’ll just have to order one and find out what size so I can chase the treads with a tap.

    For everything else. Cable should be here late Monday. So by next weekend I’ll have everything reinstalled. Then hopefully you’ll be seeing me having a nice drive!!!

    Once again another great idea I never would thought of although it makes perfect sense. Store with drive down. Been storing it about 1 / 3 way up for years.
    '89 25' Donzi R25 5.7 OMC / Cobra

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    • #47
      All well I got 11 years out of the first bellows I installed back in 2005, by doing that, you look for small cracks in the folds, when you see those you should replace. Sounds like you are coming along. Also the Cobra bellows is asymmetric, there is one more fold that goes down. That allows the rubber to stretch without cracking.
      1988 Four Winns 200 Horizon
      4.3 OMC Cobra

      98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 Selectrac
      07 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Quadradrive II

      "While air doesn't freeze....rust never sleeps"

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Lou C View Post
        All well I got 11 years out of the first bellows I installed back in 2005, by doing that, you look for small cracks in the folds, when you see those you should replace. Sounds like you are coming along. Also the Cobra bellows is asymmetric, there is one more fold that goes down. That allows the rubber to stretch without cracking.
        Cool and thanks again. Got the bellows part. Luckily it states that in my manual or I prob wouldn’t have known or noticed when I installed them about 3 years ago. Both still look perfect and pliable no cracks.

        Got my shift cable, 6 new locknuts as last ones that hold drive on we’re wore out, got pack of two OD install gasket sets, and got the drain screw which luckily chasing it with a tap was good enough to make it thread normally.

        Only thing I gotta grab now is sealants. Mine are years old, old or separated and won’t mix back right. So I’m a go get some new stuff. Still have bunch of triple guard.

        Is there anything else you can think of to do to the OD before reinstalling it ? I’ve checked the oil level and it’s good and still clean and clear as was changed recently.
        I greased up the U-Joints, scraped the mounting surface clean, and installed a new water pump kit. I had one around and it’s been a few years so whatever I replaced the plate, impeller, gasket, o ring thing.
        '89 25' Donzi R25 5.7 OMC / Cobra

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        • #49
          Grease the gimble bearing while turning it with the drive off. It should turn very smoothly and the grease should come out clean. For sealants you can use Merc Perfect Seal because it’s the same as the OMC gasket sealer. I also use Permatex Aviation sealer which you can get at any auto parts store.
          1988 Four Winns 200 Horizon
          4.3 OMC Cobra

          98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 Selectrac
          07 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Quadradrive II

          "While air doesn't freeze....rust never sleeps"

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Lou C View Post
            Grease the gimble bearing while turning it with the drive off. It should turn very smoothly and the grease should come out clean. For sealants you can use Merc Perfect Seal because it’s the same as the OMC gasket sealer. I also use Permatex Aviation sealer which you can get at any auto parts store.
            Ok perfect. Gimbal bearing is 3 years old but I will def check it again, when I checked the bellows there was nothing but blue marine grease in there [ not triple guard ]. Should be perfect, I also got my alignment tool out to re check that.

            Going to get sealants and stuff today. What’s your personal opinion? Go to marine store get Merc Perfect Seal or just grab the aviation sealant from a parts store? Any option better? I’ve never used the Merc stuff. From looking at the pivot housing I can tell I was getting water in a few diff places. I was using the Permatex Aviation Sealant, but I never used to coat both sides of the gasket. I’d coat one side and then one of the mounting surfaces.

            Will be following your directions this time coating both sides and one of the mating surfaces.

            As a side note man you can really tell the diff between the BRP / Evinrude brand cable and the Sierra ones. Even the set screws on the engine side cable end are actual bolts on this one not little tiny square set screws. Well worth the extra $. Esp with how long Lous has lasted. Think this is my third one since I have owned the boat about 8 years.
            '89 25' Donzi R25 5.7 OMC / Cobra

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            • #51
              SMH I just pulled up to the boat at a locked storage where the local cops train they’re K9s and my trailer tires are sitting fully on top of the wheel chains. As if it was pulled forward. No damage I can see. Big camera right facing my boat. Hitch lock on there so I wanna see WTH happened. I just got this nice all alum Rolls Axle trailer a year ago. I hate thieves.
              '89 25' Donzi R25 5.7 OMC / Cobra

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              • #52
                OH MAN. Trim rams are gone and lines cut. And the boat cover is half off. I HATE thieves. Now I gotta do this but it’ll be done and out of that storage by the weekend thats for sure.
                '89 25' Donzi R25 5.7 OMC / Cobra

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                • #53
                  Seriously, you just rolled up on the crime scene this morning? That stinks. Sorry man.

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                  • #54
                    Sorry to hear that man! You have insurance? I know the trim rams are pricey if you can even find em….If you get a used set, they are re-buildable, BRP still sells a rebuilt kit with seals, etc.
                    1988 Four Winns 200 Horizon
                    4.3 OMC Cobra

                    98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 Selectrac
                    07 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Quadradrive II

                    "While air doesn't freeze....rust never sleeps"

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                    • #55
                      Yea this sucks. This storage place is supposed to be very secure. Supposedly they train the sheriffs K9s there, owner lives on site, and when I moved there about a year ago they had just installed a huge security system with cameras everywhere, I’ve saw my boat on the screen in the office so I know they had to have caught it, but they won’t show me footage for liability. All stores down here have that policy. But they turned it over to the sheriffs office which doesn’t seem to care at all.

                      I still have a rebuild kit for two rams from when I rebuilt the ones that were stolen. So I’m looking for some good used ones I can reseal / rebuild. There’s a marine surplus store locally that stocks them new and slightly used but I gotta go see how much.

                      On top of that the tongue hitch part won’t fit on my ball anymore as the metal piece inside that moves when you lock it is bent. I tried bending it back but it’s strong and not any room to work. Just gonna get a new one. And I guess they wanted to steal my gauge cluster? It’s cracked in half and all the screws out. And they tried to steal my few year old new $300 BRP shifter also. Weren’t smart at all it’s not that hard to remove.

                      Have ins but depending on prices might not be worth the deductible and having that claim on me. Dunno how true it is but I heard boat INS skyrockets once you have a claim. I don’t know though.

                      Trying to look at good side. At least they didn’t break anything else and thank god I had thick welded tow chains around both tires and trailer frame. Otherwise it would be gone.

                      Did I mention I hate thieves ?
                      '89 25' Donzi R25 5.7 OMC / Cobra

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                      • #56
                        I went to west marine and asked for Merc Perfect Seal and they looked at me like I was an alien. Parts stores don’t carry aviation Permatex even though the one I got that’s old and bad came from the same store.

                        I got this Permatex Aviation Form a Gasket Sealant. Is this the same stuff you were talking about ? My old bad one just says liquid sealant or something I don’t have it right in front of me.

                        If not I can just order the stuff on amazon. Just wanna get this thing on there and get the boat out that storage.
                        '89 25' Donzi R25 5.7 OMC / Cobra

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                        • #57
                          Yes that will work. They looked at you like an alien because none of them has ever had their hands dirty in a bilge. Find a good marine parts house, one that mechanics get their parts from. Merc Perfect seal should be easy to find, but the Permatex works fine too.
                          1988 Four Winns 200 Horizon
                          4.3 OMC Cobra

                          98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 Selectrac
                          07 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Quadradrive II

                          "While air doesn't freeze....rust never sleeps"

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Lou C View Post
                            Yes that will work. They looked at you like an alien because none of them has ever had their hands dirty in a bilge. Find a good marine parts house, one that mechanics get their parts from. Merc Perfect seal should be easy to find, but the Permatex works fine too.
                            Yup seems right. Even though you can’t stand in one of theyre stores without being asked every 3 mins if you need help. Was a Sunday so I figured I’d just bend over and get it there...

                            All good though. Got a set of rams from a supply place. Donzi, Wellcraft, all those manufacturers that used to be local when they moved years and years ago they bought everything from them. So they have old stock stuff. They even have $850 OMC OEM P / S cylinders.

                            $100 a piece but I don’t gotta rebuild them they’re like new don’t leak. Replaced the two hoses going to the rams, Pre filled rams and finished install. Had to piece together all the hardware as the scumbag thieves just wrecked everything. Can’t find a dash gauge piece. Prob have a local plastics place make one they’re reasonable. Fixed shifter. Guess they didn’t know you gotta remove the handle on this one and box come out the back. Idiots. Fixed the I dunno 12 or 15 snaps that got ripped out the boat when they I guess grabbed the $1500 cover and just ripped it off. Even though it has that cover snap ring chapstick stuff on them they still broke one way or another. Really can’t believe what they went through for two used trim rams. The detective I’m working with said they have they’re tag and good descriptions of them from the cameras so maybe they’ll catch them not that I have any confidence in our local LEO depts. Then the trim rams will cost them a lot more $.

                            Now I got rest of week at work and school so now hopefully this weekend OD will be on there. Then I’ll finish bleeding out the trim system. Didn’t think I should attempt without the drive on. Rams are full so is the pump tank so shouldn’t be much.

                            Coming along.
                            '89 25' Donzi R25 5.7 OMC / Cobra

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                            • #59
                              Pivot housing is assembled and put back on. Torqued everything to spec, Installed new BRP cable, checked the gimbal bearing. It’s good. I replaced it about 5 years ago, spins freely without any noise.

                              That Permatex Aviation Sealant I bought is brown colored vs the old one I have which is white and man that stuff does not come off your hands. Denatured Alcohol barely touched it I still had to scrub every inch.

                              Ended up running out of daylight so I sealed everything up back there with some plastic and gonna do the TBSC adjustment with the drive off and the tools and then install the drive.
                              '89 25' Donzi R25 5.7 OMC / Cobra

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                              • #60
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                                Got one more question for you Lou. I asked before but just to confirm “ pack the whole shift cable pocket with triple guard. “

                                Meaning fill the ENTIRE cavity? When I was re assembling it seemed like that Triple guard is so sticky it seems like it would cause more friction.

                                Just wanna confirm.
                                '89 25' Donzi R25 5.7 OMC / Cobra

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