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  • C-19 Lockdown Doing Tricks to Motors.-

    Had the opportunity to go back to my Boating Club to start the motor after sat unused since March 14 th, gee the tiller didn't move a bit, removed the bolt that controls the tiller load and sprayed WD-40, Carb Cleaner Spray, Decarbon Spray, let soak for one hour, same to no avail. Will remove the entire swivel bracket to properly clean and grease it...

    As plan going for a full preventive maintenance, removed the carb, was found in excellent spotless clean shape due to run the motor's bowl dry after each outing. The Main Nozzle came out fast, when trying to remove the black rubber plug that seals the Slow Jet was found sitting even as in pic, the upper portion should remain out 1-2 mm as to remove the plug easily, will see if with a thin needle can be leveraged between plug body and carb tube.

    Could the carb have sucked the plug in ? What if the rubber plug comes out in a bad shape, can the carb work correctly without it ?

    Happy Boating
    Rubber Plug Issues.-
    Last edited by Sea Rider; July 28th, 2020, 10:58 AM.


    Sea Rider 320, 380 Sibs, 450 Rib, 2 Strokes Tohatsu 5,18 & 30 HP Proud Smokers

  • #2
    No, you will need that plug.
    Paul
    Certified Tohatsu TLDI Technician
    Buffalo NY USA

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pvanv View Post
      No, you will need that plug.
      Which would be a safe procedure to remove it without harming the rubber plug ? Sits flat even on upper tube as seen in the pic. Never has happened so, I'm the only one servicing this motor and take precautions as to sit the plug with little force downward.

      Happy Boating


      Sea Rider 320, 380 Sibs, 450 Rib, 2 Strokes Tohatsu 5,18 & 30 HP Proud Smokers

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      • #4
        Maybe a jeweler's screwdriver. You could try blowing it out with compressed air. Otherwise you will need a new plug.
        Paul
        Certified Tohatsu TLDI Technician
        Buffalo NY USA

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pvanv View Post
          Maybe a jeweler's screwdriver. You could try blowing it out with compressed air. Otherwise you will need a new plug.
          Compressed air seems good alternative. for that to happen where should the air hose be placed for plug to pop off, will blowing compressed air though the main jet tube side to the plug tube work. The main jet and nozzle are out for the moment and don't have an extra new plug to replace as to remove the old one if comes out in a bad shape..

          Happy Boating


          Sea Rider 320, 380 Sibs, 450 Rib, 2 Strokes Tohatsu 5,18 & 30 HP Proud Smokers

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          • #6
            Before applying air and shooting that little plug into oblivion, place/hold a rag over it when applying pressure. Might save a lot of searching around on your hands and knees...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ahicks View Post
              Before applying air and shooting that little plug into oblivion, place/hold a rag over it when applying pressure. Might save a lot of searching around on your hands and knees...
              Yep. thanks, was thinking same, will try two different methods before, one of them should work. If all three doesn't work as expected will leave it there as is, the carb has been working spotless throughout the whole throttle range...

              Happy Boating


              Sea Rider 320, 380 Sibs, 450 Rib, 2 Strokes Tohatsu 5,18 & 30 HP Proud Smokers

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              • #8
                New bummer tiller steering shaft is way stuck : it's incredible all the things that will be found when a motor is stopped for such long time, will add that patio day/night varying temperature did its nasty contribution too as to stuck both upper and lower swivel bracket's bushings that were well greased and working spotless before the sanitation lockdown. Which method of removal would you guys suggest to go for from the following three ?

                -Squirt overdoses of WD-40, Carb Cleaner at both bushings necks, let soak overnight.

                -Put the entire steering shaft and swivel bracket in a deep container and fill it with hot water and let it soak. Should soften the dried grease to be able to rotated the steering shaft sideways while pulling upwards to unlock both parts.

                -Heat both on a small propane burner till heated enough to soften the dried grease for the steering shaft to work its way out.

                Any other method ? Don't want to use a propane torch, could end being way invasive and screw both hard plastic bushings. The grease with which usually lube all rotating and sliding components is Evinrude's Triple Guard Grease which is fresh...

                Happy Boating


                Sea Rider 320, 380 Sibs, 450 Rib, 2 Strokes Tohatsu 5,18 & 30 HP Proud Smokers

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                • #9
                  Black plastic enclosure around the motor should melt grease in your climate.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DeepCMark58A View Post
                    Black plastic enclosure around the motor should melt grease in your climate.
                    Nope, we're not that hot, max 22º C in plain summer and 14/16º C in winter.. The issue is that only the upper and lower bushings were greased and not the whole steering hollow shaft's body. 4.5 month forced stop is too much time, the motor was previously run all year round at least min 2-3 times per week and could tiller drive smoothly with 3 fingers.

                    Sprayed overnight an overdose of WD-40 now is beginning to turn very hard to side, at least that's a small progress...

                    Happy Boating


                    Sea Rider 320, 380 Sibs, 450 Rib, 2 Strokes Tohatsu 5,18 & 30 HP Proud Smokers

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                    • #11
                      I don't do the metric system. The country I live in has a flag on the moon.

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                      • #12
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                        No Creativity = No Progress :

                        1-The rubber plug was removed by tapping a narrow piece of 3M tape the one used to hang objects against walls on top plug while pulling it firmly upward and out. Will order some spare ones, was the only carb part that thought was not needed to have in stock.

                        2-Submersing the entire swivel bracket along steering shaft in a deep container with boiling water made little progress. Ended drilling several 3 mm (*) holes around the middle of both plastic shaft's upper and lower bushings, applied an overdose of WD-40 let soak over night, screwed the swivel bracket on a tall motor stand, crossed a long metal shaft through both shaft's eye holes ends.

                        One person twisted back and forth vigorously the upper transporting handle and another one did same on the lower shaft to unlock both bushings till rotated evenly, 4 strong hits provided by a huge hammer along a wooden chunk placed under the lower shaft portion did the trick pulling it out fast.

                        The steering shaft had soldered itself to the bushings and the bushings against the swivel bracket's circular walls. The steering shaft and the swivel's bracket's internals were brushed with a heavy metal brush to remove all traces of rust. Al rotating components will be properly greased with Triple Guard Grease before being assembled and installed at the middle leg.

                        3-I'm a firm believer that any motor used in salt water and stopped for months will have collected salt layers, crusts, doesn't matter how well you flush your motor soon after returning to terra firme on its last outing. This thermostat was cleaned to perfection 50 hours ago, be advised that this motor is flushed for at least 10 minutes with high pressure fresh water soon returning to the Club, check the salt condition it was found.....

                        Happy Boating
                        Last edited by Sea Rider; August 8th, 2020, 04:16 PM.


                        Sea Rider 320, 380 Sibs, 450 Rib, 2 Strokes Tohatsu 5,18 & 30 HP Proud Smokers

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