1994 Force 40hp - Tilt and Trim leaking down

[Bevo2000]

The tilt and trim on my 1994 Force 40hp motor (serial number 0E067660) is leaking down. If I bleed out the system, then I don't have any issue (motor will hold position and will not fall down). However, after a day on the lake, leak down will reappear. I think there's a leak in the seal of the cylinder because the pump works great and no fluid is leaking there. Is there a rebuild kit for the cylinder or do I have to replace it at the cost of $500 just for the part? Thanks for your input.

 

[topgun3690]

Did you check out the sticky at the top of the forum titled Chrysler/Force FAQ? There are 2 posts about the T&T system including testing and repair. Good info in there.

You can also do a forum search for T&T repair....Lots of posts with good info come up.

 

[jerryjerry05]

The repairs listed in the sticky's are for the older style
T@T pump.
Your pump is a Mercury / Force made pump.
Used some parts from both.
Finding parts is gonna be tough,

The o-ring needs replacing if it's leaking at the seal.
Find the size and look for the appropriate one.
Granger and other places(Harbor Freight) sell o-rings
HF has 3 different o-ring kits. Something from them
might have the right one???

Always fill the reservoire while down.

 

[Bevo2000]

Did you check out the sticky at the top of the forum titled Chrysler/Force FAQ? There are 2 posts about the T&T system including testing and repair. Good info in there.

You can also do a forum search for T&T repair....Lots of posts with good info come up.

Thanks .. Yes I found the sticky for T&T and it was great.

 

[Bevo2000]

The repairs listed in the sticky's are for the older style
T@T pump.
Your pump is a Mercury / Force made pump.
Used some parts from both.
Finding parts is gonna be tough,

The o-ring needs replacing if it's leaking at the seal.
Find the size and look for the appropriate one.
Granger and other places(Harbor Freight) sell o-rings
HF has 3 different o-ring kits. Something from them
might have the right one???

Always fill the reservoire while down.

Thanks Jerry, especially for the sticky regarding T&T. I have a question for you if you don't mind. I do have a service manual but it's apparently not specific for my model so I am not sure how to safely replace the O-ring for the cylinder. Do you have a link for this replacement? I can follow the sticky to replace the O-rings for the valve body because the instructions were very clear. As soon as I can buy the brass cap and plug, my next step is to perform the leak down test to determine which component is failing.

 

[jerryjerry05]

Here's the manual you need.
It should cover the repair.
Just make sure the spanner wrench fits the holes
in the tilt ram.
If they get buggered?? you'll have a horrible time
finding a fix.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-1993-...660605?hash=item44633c1efd:g:LfAAAOSw2vBfU9-F

 

[Bevo2000]

Here's the manual you need.
It should cover the repair.
Just make sure the spanner wrench fits the holes
in the tilt ram.
If they get buggered?? you'll have a horrible time
finding a fix.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-1993-...660605?hash=item44633c1efd:g:LfAAAOSw2vBfU9-F

Thanks Jerry.

 

[jerryjerry05]

One added note:
I have 5 different spanner wrenches and
none fit the Force.
I found the deck plate tool works really well
on Mercury cylinders.

 

[topgun3690]

https://www.offshoremarineparts.com/916-19-utt.html

This is the only spanner wrench I could find that specifically stated it was for Chrysler and Force tilt cylinders. Kind of pricy but worked on my tilt cylinder very well. Fits several other makes as well with several sets of pins included. FYI

 

[jerryjerry05]

WOW!!!
That's pretty expensive!!

 

[topgun3690]

Thinkin about renting it out to try and recoup my money! Lol

 

[jerryjerry05]

I tell people that they can 'borrow" my tools on
one condition.
They leave a 100$ non refundable deposit or
let me do the work.

 

[The Force power]

WOW!!!
That's pretty expensive!!

BUT........

This is the LAST trim cap tool you will ever need.

He should of waited & they would of shipped he two for price of one & with an additional 40% off the regular retail price

info commercial :couch2:

 

[topgun3690]

BUT........

This is the LAST trim cap tool you will ever need.

He should of waited & they would of shipped he two for price of one & with an additional 40% off the regular retail price

info commercial :couch2:

Another way to look at it.....what I saved by doing it myself paid for the tool, and I will have the CORRECT tool to do it the next time!

 

[jerryjerry05]

Where is the 2 for 1 place?

 

[The Force power]

Where is the 2 for 1 place?

incase you loose the first one :rofl:

 

[topgun3690]

Yeah! Where is this TWO-FOR-ONE place?? LOL:laugh:

 

[The Force power]

Yeah! Where is this TWO-FOR-ONE place?? LOL:laugh:

Info commercials
you always get two if you wait and if you wait longer; they'll give 40% off
BUT........WAIT.......they'll even send it without shipping cost:laugh::blah:

 

[topgun3690]

Info commercials
you always get two if you wait and if you wait longer; they'll give 40% off
BUT........WAIT.......they'll even send it without shipping cost:laugh::blah:

And the price is always $19.99...........LOL

 

[jerryjerry05]

You should have bought 2 and gave me the other