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  • #61
    Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

    I ran into the same problem. On the peice with the circles cut into it there was a place on either side up front that the original peice didn't fit so they just shoved it in totally destroying the edges of the plywood???? I guess they figured it's gonna be covered so what the heck!

    Any chance the stuff you're talking about is called Bituthene? It's a modified asphalt sheet that's peel and stick.
    Last edited by North Beach; February 27th, 2009, 04:54 PM. Reason: Kaint Spel
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    • #62
      Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

      Originally posted by North Beach View Post
      I ran into the same problem. On the peice with the circles cut into it there was a place on either side up front that the original peice didn't fit so they just shoved it in totally destrowing the edges of the plywood???? I guess they figured it's gonna be covered so what the heck!

      Any chance the stuff you're talking about is called Bituthene? It's a modified asphalt sheet that's peel and stick.
      Yep, same thing different coast and I never could remember how to spell it. They don't even call it that out here anymore. It goes by a half dozen or so different names. Still looks the same on the shelf though.

      I always keep a roll of it on the truck. I've used it for dozens of different applications and it never fails me.

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      • #63
        Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

        [QUOTE=sschefer;1983975]Absolutely, I talked to a couple of boat builders and they advised screwing it down. I used 1-1/2 #10, 18-8 stainless truss head screws spaced 6" inches apart. I also layed Vichathane down over the aluminum stringers to give me a barrier between the wood and aluminum. Vichathane is vulcanized moisture barrier. You can get it at Home Depot. It's comes in a 6" wide roll and is normally used around house windows.
        I also counter sunk the screws and sealed them over with 3M marine filler. They won't be fun to remove the next time but I don't plan on doing this again.
        QUOTE]

        So you screwed the aluminum cross beams to the wood and then screwed the wood down to the stringers? Did you do anything to secure the sides of the wood to the boat? I'll be doing this on my '76 Starcraft very soon, so every detail helps.

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        • #64
          Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

          [quote=cnr2003;1984487]
          Originally posted by sschefer View Post
          Absolutely, I talked to a couple of boat builders and they advised screwing it down. I used 1-1/2 #10, 18-8 stainless truss head screws spaced 6" inches apart. I also layed Vichathane down over the aluminum stringers to give me a barrier between the wood and aluminum. Vichathane is vulcanized moisture barrier. You can get it at Home Depot. It's comes in a 6" wide roll and is normally used around house windows.
          I also counter sunk the screws and sealed them over with 3M marine filler. They won't be fun to remove the next time but I don't plan on doing this again.
          QUOTE]

          So you screwed the aluminum cross beams to the wood and then screwed the wood down to the stringers? Did you do anything to secure the sides of the wood to the boat? I'll be doing this on my '76 Starcraft very soon, so every detail helps.
          Yes, the wood deck meets the sides and rests on the ribs. The ribs are tied into the sides with the original aluminum tabs. I used 1-1/4 x #8, 18-8 stainless to screw the wood to the ribs. If you're side trays are still on then you'll need a right angle drill to get under them.

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          • #65
            Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

            SS, bituthene is a brand name and there are several other manufacturers. It's a below grade waterproofing material that's usually installed on concrete and then covered with fill. It's also marketed as ice and water shield and used on roofs to wrap behind gutters as a barrier in areas where ice build up can be a problem. We use it all the time in our business.

            CNR, on the starcrafts, there's a z channel that the side panels rests on that gets fastened to the wood deck and the tray for the cubbyhole storage(I still don't know what to call that). It's about 3 or 4 inches tall and goes up behind the side panels. Like SS says, if you're not gonna remove them, then you'll have to first get the decking out, and then slide it up under the z channel.
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            • #66
              Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

              Yep, I do too.. Here's another great use for it. Next time you build a deck, wrap the top of the joists and beams with it. When the customer puts 10,000,000 potted plants on the deck and waters with a timer the joists and beams won't rot out. The deck boards will go (even IPE) but the joists and beams will still be good.

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              • #67
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                • #68
                  Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

                  Hey North Beach, looking good. Just something to consider if you haven't already. In that cubby storage area you mention previously on the sides, consider painting that or coating it with spray bedliner from wal-mart before you put everything back together. I didn't to it on mine and now I have a visible ratty area when everything else looks nice. I think joeyplumly did it on his.
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                  • #69
                    Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

                    EZ, that's the plan. The bedliner that is! Danged glue don't even wanna come off with the blaster
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                    • #70
                      Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

                      North Beach,
                      Nice job on your project. I was very intrigued when I saw the condition of you boat (below deck) considering it's age. I have a 92 starcraft aluminum and have been into it a little bit (for rigging purposes). I liked what I saw with the lack of corrosion/rot the type of foam etc., It is just about identical to yours. Looks like when starcraft found a good thing they decided to stick with it. Keep up the good work. (kinda makes me wanna pick up one of those old Islanders!)
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                      • #71
                        Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

                        58, thanks! I'm tryin to have some fun with this thing. I've seen a couple of old islanders on Craigslist goin for fairly cheap, and kinda toyed around with the idea. But now I'm leaning towards open bow/center console. You just lose so much boat with a cabin on a 22-25 footer. They are nice boats though.
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                        • #72
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                          • #73
                            Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

                            Excellent work. I'm definitely going with the pink sheet foam for the next one I do. Mine essentially doesn't have any. When I tore up my old floor there were some sheets of regular white styrofoam under there and I just left them be. I doubt there's anywhere near enough there to do any good. Can you friggin' believe how expensive that pink foam is though? I had to buy a sheet of it for some scenery work on my train layout and was shocked at the price.
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                            • #74
                              Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

                              Man she really does look great !!!!! Keep the good work !! John
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                              • #75
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                                Re: 66 Starcraft Sunchief Re-Build

                                Originally posted by North Beach View Post
                                EZ, that's the plan. The bedliner that is! Danged glue don't even wanna come off with the blaster
                                MEK and terry cloth rags.. Get them both at HD (don't forget your wallet). Get a respirator too if you don't have one. MEK smells nasty (high VOC) but is less volitale than Acetone. I wiped my 18' clean in a couple of hours. Soak the rag in MEK (I used a shallow metal pan) then saturate the glued area. Go over it a couple of times and the glue will soften up and come right off. This is what 3M recommends for glue removal of these types of glues.
                                When the rag is covered in glue, lay it out flat in a well ventelated area and it will dry solid as a rock in about 20 minutes. After that you can discard it in the trash or play frisbee. Don't let the dog eat them.

                                It took me a gallon of MEK and a dozen rags to do my entire hull.
                                I also wore a pair of canvas gloves over a pair of rubber gloves and they held up for the entire job.

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