1980 StarCraft Super Sport Rebuild **Help Me Im a Noob**

[emoney]

Those numbers are fine. As long as each cylinder is within 10% of the other, high to low, you’re good.

As to the outdrive, it’s not a compression test, it’s a pressure test. Wait for the manual and it will spell it out step by step. In the meantime you can check the fluid in it and make sure it’s not milky white from water intrusion.

 

[KamelRed408]

emoney thank for the info. i figured 10% was the range but this is my first boat. i rebuild car engines for fun so its similar with the range..... where can i check the oil i dont see a dipstick or a res anywhere

i saw a home made tester with a bike pump and tire valve with a gauge to check pressure . i can make one up easy i just dont see where i would connect it to




For the outdrive im looking at these kits. let me know if i need more parts. thanks









boatparts dot ca is the website i saw this

12110 Water pump kit
P/N 12110
lower unit water pump kit
1970 - 1983, serial numbers 2763442-6854392
Parts included:

12312 46-57234T1 Base
12410 46-96148T1 Housing
12510 32435-1 Wear Plate
12820 23-29804T Guide Tube
21330 25-30271 Slinger
31010 27-85608-1 Gasket
31020 27-858524 Gasket
31040 27-856704 Gasket
31170 (2) 12-19183-3 Gasket
81160 25-30613 O-ring
85140 26-45577-1 Seal
89840 47-89984T4 Impeller
$44.95



Bellows Kit
P/N 21950 Mercruiser lower unit transom service kit, includes accordion style exhaust (1973 - 1990, serial numbers 3469428 - 0D469858)



30-803097T1



Parts included:
21905 Gimbal Bearing
85910 Oil seal
39622 Outdrive installation gasket Kit
47110 Water Hose 3/4 inch
47120 Hose 5/8 inch
89050 U-Joint tube
89080 Shift Cable tube
89100 Exhaust tube
$145.95




87500 Mercruiser upper housing gaskets
P/N 87500 Seal kit

1964 - 1990 models

serial numbers
(1684188 - 0D469858)

26-32511A1

$24.95


Lower Unit 87510 seal kit
P/N 87510 For
1967 - 1990 models, including MC-1, R, MR and Alpha 1 Gen 1

26-33144A2
$38.95





P/N 39590
Outdrive installation gasket set
(1967 - 1982, serial numbers 2062141 - 6225576)

27-64818T4
$12.95




508235 OMC Johnson Compound
P/N 508235 Gasket compound. This is used on the o-rings and gaskets when re-sealing the outdrive
$24.95





609 Loctite
P/N 609 609 Loctite for oil seals. Low viscosity and fast drying. Small tube is enough for one complete stern drive. Adds 3000 psi of holding power.
$9.95



680 loctite
P/N 680 680 Loctite. Highest retaining strength, adds 3700 psi of holding power. It is recommended to use the 680 instead of the 609 if you need to offset seals from original position onto a shaft. Small container is enough for a complete stern drive and future repair jobs.
$35.95




that is $340 in parts for both upper and lower.... am i missing anything? any special tools i will need?


does i boats have this stuff for sale? id rather buy from here to be honest

 

[emoney]

This video should help;

https://youtu.be/6YVPt2uFmqM

 

[emoney]

This video should help;

https://youtu.be/6YVPt2uFmqM

Im an outboard guy so better to learn from someone that knows better

 

[KamelRed408]

thanks mine looks nothing like that lol....im searching for the resivor but cant find it. ill just w8.for my manuals to.come in lol....

 

[Mad Props]

I have a video on my YouTube channel on pressure testing a drive... it's an alpha 1 gen 2 but basically the same procedure... I made my own adapter so you're on your own for that...

 

[KamelRed408]

https://youtu.be/gnHkApHuDrk

was a good video.for me to.find the plugs for the drive oil

 

[KamelRed408]

I have a video on my YouTube channel on pressure testing a drive... it's an alpha 1 gen 2 but basically the same procedure... I made my own adapter so you're on your own for that...

thank you so much best video on this hands down

 

[KamelRed408]

any one know if the outdrive parts i listed is a complete list that i will need... thanks again guys

 

[KamelRed408]

im back at the boat.....im puttung primer on the boat now but i want to upgrade from the carb to new fuel system what can i do to upgrade....same for spark i dont want to set points every so often can i upgrade to coils?

 

[Woodonglass]

IMHO, I would NOT be painting the boat in any way now. You have Sooooo much work to do before you even THINK about the boat. Check the Transom NOW!!! I'm betting it is Rotten and needs to be replaced. If so then remove the outdrive and the motor. It'll make replacing the transom sooo much easier and it's easier to rebuild all the mechanicals once they've been removed from the boat. Once you're sure that the motor is solid and the outdrive too, Then and ONLY then would I start on the boat. Take a Bunch of measurements for Everything before your tear out anything. Then remove the deck, stringers and Transom Once the boat is gutted you can start the rebuild. Read and Study similar builds here on the forum so you'll see what you'll be doing. The guys on here have been there and done that and can guide you to a Great re-build.

Welcome Aboard.

 

[matt167]

Wood, he has a Starcraft Tinny

 

[Woodonglass]

Wood, he has a Starcraft Tinny

Well There ya Go!!! I'm Old, and can't rea and comprehend any more!!!! I'll just sit and listen now!!! Carry On!!

 

[KamelRed408]

that is a good point woodonglass.

im coming up an several things i need to buy to help complete my project.


i have gluvit to seal all the seams and rivets.

im taking it down to bare metal and sealing everything..

the old pàint is so ugly i just wanted to start there for now...

but i need to lift my boat up to get the bottom part.


i need 4 boat jacks the ones i say are about $150 each.

i need a cherry picker to get the engine out..... havent looked at ones yet .....any good ones to clear the boat i asume it needs to be able to go pretty high and reach far....

ill need to get another engine stand my are full atm with ls builds..

an outdrive stand for the upper and lower...


.
and a boat cover.




so thanks wood i need to upgrade my tools before i really move on with this boat....


ill post some pics of the work i have done recent..

 

[KamelRed408]

2x Brownell MB2 29"-46" Boat Stand

• $154.56 each

2x Brownell MB3 Motor Boat Stand - 25" to 38"

• $113.65 each

2x Brownell SK1 Keel Stand - 20" to 32"

• $170.86 each

1x Torin Big Red Steel Rotating Engine Stand with Foldable Frame: 3...

• $109.99

cant find a decent cherry picker for marine engines

 

[ACon977]

Hello!

Just hopping on your thread now. Looks like a fun project. for pulling the engine, most of the cherry pickers dont have enough reach to get to the marine engine. I built a gantry hoist out of dimensional lumber and it worked great to get the engine out and in. Use a chain hoist for raise/lower. Ive attached an image of what I did, and here is a link to a youtube post that I got my inspiration from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtPU1pOTLH4&t=64s

 

[havoc_squad]

im back at the boat.....im puttung primer on the boat now but i want to upgrade from the carb to new fuel system what can i do to upgrade....same for spark i dont want to set points every so often can i upgrade to coils?

If the carb is in good condition overall and works well after a proper rebuild, don't change it. It would be very a very good idea to get a fuel & water seperating filter if you don't have one on it now.

On boats, you gain very little on 4 stroke motors on carb to fuel injection since it under constant load while in gear. So don't unless you got thousands of dollars to burn.

What you can do is install the correct Delco EST distributor ignition kit to get rid of points ignition. There are other electronic ignition kits, but the Delco EST is the closest to factory/OEM.

 

[KamelRed408]

The boat was an eye sore.

I resealed the rivet with gluvit
2 layers

3 light layers of the paint

Did the roll and tip method



Replaced

Spark plugs
Points and conditions
Distributor cap
Spark plug wires
Ignition coil
battery



Rebuilt the carb myself I doubt I got it cleaned enough sadly.
I was able to put it back exactly how I took it out. I'm within specs on the brass float but it's my first time so I'm questioning myself.



I have these new parts waiting to be installed

Engine Oil and oil filter
Fuel/water separator filter
mechanical fuel pump ( old one was broken and some p.o.s electric is on it atm)
Coolant
Valve cover gasket
alternator belt
Waterproof trailer lights
Waterproof trailer 5 pin / junction box
trim limit switch



My next project atm

Remove fuel tank and deep clean.
Replace all fuel lines / filters / separators
Install fuel pump
Install carb and linkage.


Then test and adjust carb and points as needed

 

[KamelRed408]

Paying 1850 for upholstery

I got quotes for 1600-2k from several people.


I'm missing one cushion. They will custom make one.


The wood is iffy on some of the chairs but they said they can re inforce it.



What is a good captains chair for this boat.