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  • #91
    I'll take some picks when I get home tonight.
    Miss Morgan,1969 Sleekcraft "Boats by Nescher" Newport. Power by Mercury 115 L6, tower of power.
    https://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=364284

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Scherfz1 View Post

      i don't believe my stingers are longer than 8', but if they are i may stick with dimensional limber, the reason being is the idea of splicing together wood, one, makes me nervous, and two, i don't think i have the available room to or oneside would be screwed together and not both. the stinger sides that are to the outsides, really sit in a channel in this hull and cannot be thicker than what it currently is. bu we will see and il get more measurements tonight.
      I used dimensional lumber.

      One all plywood was gone once it is wet it falls apart and turns to mulch real fast. Wood held up to water much better. 3/4 of wood was still good. And it was exposed to the same amount of water as the plywood. My reckoning was it can't be stronger if it isn't there anymore.

      Two the joint it would have to have I also didn't like.

      Three it lasted 30 years with it and was still a usable boat when I took it apart. When I was doing mine that was the catch all phrase everyone was using for the use of wood over composits. "It lasted 30 plus years" Hell in 30 years I be almost 100.

      Boat be fine the way it was originally made with 1708 in layers where it was only csm with a chop gun before. That alone is 12X stronger than it was according to CSM to 1708 rating. Wood isn't even in the running for strength at that point anymore. Careful layups and all sealed. Heck my son probably have this thing most of his life when I go to the Siren myself.

      Mine has been out in the river it is a very quiet tank. Just make your call and go with it. Smile as you cruise your new better than new boat.
      Dance with the waves,
      move with the sea.
      Let the rhythm of the water
      set your soul free.

      1987 Four Winns 170 Horizon.

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      • #93
        Box or 2 of gloves, lots of chip brushes, talc for your hands, mixing cups, paint stir sticks, scissors, second pair of scissors, paper towels, good respirator.
        1987 Bayliner Capri 1750 (Work In Progress)
        120 Mercruiser Engine S/N 2458751
        MC-1 Drive S/N 2463635

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        • #94
          This is how I make my seat mount. Fiberglass angle glued to the deck with west-systems 6-ten. No holes in the deck and excellent strength. Depending on your seat configuration might not work for you. I just call them box seats since they have a wooden base that make a box. Click image for larger version

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          I made my battery hold down and fuel tank hard points with left over seacast. I poured it out 3/4" thick, then later cut it into blocks with tapered sides. I then drilled a hole in them and a larger hole for a countersink on the back side. I then put a couple layers of glass on the top side to reinforce the seacast. I epoxied in a stainless carriage bolt from the bottom side and epoxied them to the deck. I then went over the top with two spices of 1708 to reinforce the entire thing and give it a better bond. Again no holes in the deck and it is super solid.

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          Hope that gives you some ideas.
          Miss Morgan,1969 Sleekcraft "Boats by Nescher" Newport. Power by Mercury 115 L6, tower of power.
          https://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=364284

          Current project,https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...project-fuggly

          "Nothing is done so poorly that the government can’t do it worse!"

          “It’s easy being a humorist when you’ve got the whole government working for you.”—Will Rogers

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          • #95
            Originally posted by dezmond View Post
            Box or 2 of gloves, lots of chip brushes, talc for your hands, mixing cups, paint stir sticks, scissors, second pair of scissors, paper towels, good respirator.
            lol i got all that besides the chip brushes and stir sticks, thank god for having a body shop next to my automotive shop lol and i will not talc my hands lol the walnut buster at work drys them out enough lol
            Seadoo 96XP Full Resto (Sold)

            1989 BayLiner Capri 14' Full Resto
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            • #96
              Originally posted by archbuilder View Post
              This is how I make my seat mount. Fiberglass angle glued to the deck with west-systems 6-ten. No holes in the deck and excellent strength. Depending on your seat configuration might not work for you. I just call them box seats since they have a wooden base that make a box. [ATTACH=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"large","data-attachmentid":10753866**[/ATTACH]
              I made my battery hold down and fuel tank hard points with left over seacast. I poured it out 3/4" thick, then later cut it into blocks with tapered sides. I then drilled a hole in them and a larger hole for a countersink on the back side. I then put a couple layers of glass on the top side to reinforce the seacast. I epoxied in a stainless carriage bolt from the bottom side and epoxied them to the deck. I then went over the top with two spices of 1708 to reinforce the entire thing and give it a better bond. Again no holes in the deck and it is super solid.

              [ATTACH=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"large","data-attachmentid":10753867**[/ATTACH]
              Hope that gives you some ideas.
              thats legit, thanks for the photos! now i know what you mean, now my seat "box" was apart of the battery box bulk head....hmmm, might have to improve on design.....
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              • #97
                well alrighty folks.... so i have kinda hit a speed bump in my project....... i finally found information on my HP rating for this boat.... annnnnnnnd I'm not enthused. it is only rated for 50 HP....... is this something that could be changed depending on what i do to the transom? meaning thickening it, widening it, and well at this point make my own?
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                • #98
                  I wouldn't stray to far from the MFG. ratings.
                  1961 Lonestar Flamingo - SPLASHED...Kinda!!
                  Fabricating Decks, Stringers, and Transoms
                  Paint Your Boat with Tractor Paint...Say What!!!

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                  • #99
                    I buy Chip brushes at harbor freight. They r cheap there

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                    • Originally posted by Woodonglass View Post
                      I wouldn't stray to far from the MFG. ratings.
                      Don’t know if that will be feasible to be honest
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                      • ^^^^^^ ment to be a joke yall
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                        • Following along with WOG's comment, I wouldn't go too far away from the MFGs recommendation. Realistically though, if you put in a transom that was larger than the factory one and additional glass tabbing it in and in areas surrounding the transom, your boat could probably take over 100hp no problem.

                          That being said, 50HP in a 14' boat is actually gonna do more than you probably think. If its a small number of people on board and not too much beer, you can probably do all the stuff you want to do (tube, MAYBE ski, cruise around on plane, etc).
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                          • Originally posted by Mad Props View Post
                            Following along with WOG's comment, I wouldn't go too far away from the MFGs recommendation. Realistically though, if you put in a transom that was larger than the factory one and additional glass tabbing it in and in areas surrounding the transom, your boat could probably take over 100hp no problem.

                            That being said, 50HP in a 14' boat is actually gonna do more than you probably think. If its a small number of people on board and not too much beer, you can probably do all the stuff you want to do (tube, MAYBE ski, cruise around on plane, etc).
                            well not much for tubing or skiing out of this thing. mostly want it for a lake runner. the 59 johnson on it now barely got the girl to id say 20mph and barely on plane. and i don't want to be going distances at 20mph and at wide the hell open, id honestly be at 75% power cruising at a reasonable speed. hell the seahorse now as soon as you back off of wide open she wants to come off plane.

                            going 20% over on a motor rating would put me at 60hp and at that deal might as well stick with the dog i got now. But someone did make the point to me that a new 50hp would out power and do what i need better than the 59 seahorse. which makes sense.

                            as for people and booze on the boat, that will be the gf and myself only, gass/A**/grass rides aren't free LMFAO and its 14' for god sakes lol. and and then a bottle of fireball for the GF, i don't drink when out on the water if i am at the controls, just don't believe in it. soo there shouldn't be much weight at all.
                            Last edited by Scherfz1; June 12th, 2019, 06:43 AM. Reason: other thoughts to add
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                            • Not to encourage you to up your power substantially, but its my understanding that the hp rating on a boat is more closely tied to the overall weight rating. Supposedly the weight rating and hp rating is a combined assumption of what the boat can handle and stay upright and afloat when swamped. The coast guard boat builders guide has the required flotation calculations if your confident enough to try and figure it all out with a larger motor.

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                                Originally posted by Hab View Post
                                Not to encourage you to up your power substantially, but its my understanding that the hp rating on a boat is more closely tied to the overall weight rating. Supposedly the weight rating and hp rating is a combined assumption of what the boat can handle and stay upright and afloat when swamped. The coast guard boat builders guide has the required flotation calculations if your confident enough to try and figure it all out with a larger motor.
                                if i did there math correctly, from what i found, this boat would be rated for a 10hp motor......... from my understanding that is too, but it is rated for 50.... soooo how does this work ya know lol
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