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  • Thanks WOG for the advice. I know I am overkilling it wrapping my stringers and bulkheads in 17oz biax. Oh well. I know they will be there a looooooong time and will be sealed as I am wrapping right over the top of them. Doing it out of the boat is nice as well. Give e the chance to work the bubble out and also not wreck my back or knees

    A busy weekend, Had out company dinner Saturday night and went and visited the inlaws today so I didn't get a chance to get a whole lot done. I did cut out the template for the remainder stringers and got them cut and soaking in resin. Also wrapped my second bullhead with 2 layers of 17oz tonight so it will be ready to install as well. I plan to have stringers and bulkheads bedded this week and maybe tabbed.

    I have to cut some holes in the starboard front stringer for my chases but won't do that until I know what will work and where they will need to go.

    A couple of pics from today..> Sorry not very many. I will have lot's more this week for sure...





    Again thanks everyone for the advice and comments.. Keeps me going on this project... Can't wait to see a deck on there so I can start to plan my interior. And of course more clean up on the side walls etc... But hey "Variety Is The Spice Of Life"

    Have a great night!
    1987 Bayliner Capri 1750 (Work In Progress)
    120 Mercruiser Engine S/N 2458751
    MC-1 Drive S/N 2463635

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    • Good progress. Overkill is NOT a bad thing, it just hits the old wallet a bit more!!!! At least your Grandkids or the Next owner will appreciate it!!!!
      1961 Lonestar Flamingo - SPLASHED...Kinda!!
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      • Originally posted by Woodonglass View Post
        Good progress. Overkill is NOT a bad thing, it just hits the old wallet a bit more!!!! At least your Grandkids or the Next owner will appreciate it!!!!
        hahahahaha yep I hear ya.. Well you know.... I have noticed something though with using Epoxy over poly... With what I have done so far in my thread, I have only used maybe 3 1/2 - 4 gallons of resin.... I think I am doing really good so far. I don't think I will use more than 10 Gallons all said and done. And that includes my one off custom center console and interior... I may be wrong but....... If I am correct, and I use proper amounts of resin with very little waste, my costs could be close to the same as if I were to use Poly as I am sure i would need more because of the CSM soaking up so much.... Just my thoughts on this....

        I really do like Epoxy though.. It hasn't given me any problems yet with my layups.. Also if I have any left when I'm done a task, I just slather it somewhere in the hull for extra sealing

        1987 Bayliner Capri 1750 (Work In Progress)
        120 Mercruiser Engine S/N 2458751
        MC-1 Drive S/N 2463635

        Bayliner Capri 1750 Bow Rider Rebuild My Way

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        • Less is more with epoxy, you use just enough to fully wet it out, gives the best results...thats why its kind of a misnomer that poly is alot cheaper than epoxy, when you couple that with no hazmat shipping fees, its closer than most think....
          Last edited by zool; December 2nd, 2018, 06:26 PM.
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          • Hey Guys... Quick question for you.. I have bee shopping around for plywood for my deck. Just getting prices and stuff. My local lumber yards have 4x8 5/8" fir good one side. They also have 4x8 5/8" pine ACX grade.

            Here is my question.... Which one would be better to use? Using epoxy. Going to put a layer of 17oz biax on the bottom and a layer of either 10oz or 6oz cloth on the topside.

            Suggestions??

            Thanks

            BTW, I got the front stringers covered with 2 layers of 17oz out of the boat this week as well as a bulkhead... Will be bedding and filleting them this weekend. Pics will be coming

            Dezi
            1987 Bayliner Capri 1750 (Work In Progress)
            120 Mercruiser Engine S/N 2458751
            MC-1 Drive S/N 2463635

            Bayliner Capri 1750 Bow Rider Rebuild My Way

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            • Ive used both, the fir is usually CDX and has alot of knots and may be warped, but its strong, you just fill in the knots and voids with thickened resin before you wrap it, The ACX is is a bit weaker, but nice and clean and straight.....for stringers and bulkheads, its kinda your choice......for seat bases and su ch, I like the ACX or even MDO from Lowes.
              "We all come from the sea. But we are not all of the sea. Those of us who are, we children of the tides, must return to it again and again."

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              10' tin gamefisher/Johnson 7.5hp ob
              1991 Sea Ray 170br/AlphaMerc
              1996 Century 1800 CC/Yamaha c85
              1988 Imperial 280SF (under the knife)
              1972 Checkmate mx-15

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              • The ACX should have a lot fewer voids than CDX. I used ACX for everything on the Sylvan
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                • More looking for the deck... I am using the fir for all stringers, bulkheads... Just didn't know if I can continue with fir or would pine give me a better finish in the end? If fir is fine, I don't mind filling voids if needed..

                  Aaaaaand as of now, I have no idea what I will be doing with the deck.. Paint? Awlgrip? Carpet? I dunno
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                  120 Mercruiser Engine S/N 2458751
                  MC-1 Drive S/N 2463635

                  Bayliner Capri 1750 Bow Rider Rebuild My Way

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                  • I used 1/2" MDO for my deck and above-deck structures. I ended up adding some stiffening ribs over the gas tank area on mine because the span was a little long and the floor had some flex. If I were to do it over again, I would still use it, but now I know what needs reinforcement and what doesn't... I didn't want the weight of 5/8" or 3/4" thick flooring. I also liked the MDO is basically designed to be exposed to the elements (its used for outdoor signs n' such).

                    However, regular ACX, BCX, CDX, will all work just fine once encapsulated properly. CDX tho tends to have more internal voids which can affect stiffness.
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                    • our ACX here is pine.... I guess it really doesn't matter since I am sealing it and encapsulating it with cloth on both sides. Correct?
                      1987 Bayliner Capri 1750 (Work In Progress)
                      120 Mercruiser Engine S/N 2458751
                      MC-1 Drive S/N 2463635

                      Bayliner Capri 1750 Bow Rider Rebuild My Way

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                      • Originally posted by oldrem View Post
                        The ACX should have a lot fewer voids than CDX. I used ACX for everything on the Sylvan
                        ACX... What material? Pine? Fir?
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                        120 Mercruiser Engine S/N 2458751
                        MC-1 Drive S/N 2463635

                        Bayliner Capri 1750 Bow Rider Rebuild My Way

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                        • Good question not sure. But acx,bcx,cdx is all rated for exterior via glues. I don't think it matters what's wood it is. I've used all in my build. As long as its properly sealed and voids filled. no dif. As far as voicds and strength once glassed properly they are fine.
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                          • Fir is Douglass Fir, which is pine
                            "We all come from the sea. But we are not all of the sea. Those of us who are, we children of the tides, must return to it again and again."

                            Current Boats
                            10' tin gamefisher/Johnson 7.5hp ob
                            1991 Sea Ray 170br/AlphaMerc
                            1996 Century 1800 CC/Yamaha c85
                            1988 Imperial 280SF (under the knife)
                            1972 Checkmate mx-15

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                            • Originally posted by zool View Post
                              Fir is Douglass Fir, which is pine
                              Technically not but I'm only being anal cuz my father in law and brotherinlaw are both arborists and I'm a woodworker so I have more wood facts in my head than I am proud of...lol

                              Most ACX plywood is made from pine or fir, depends on what the manufacturer has available at the time and where in the country they are (Pacific NW will typically use Doug fir or hemlock which is a fir.... if it's made in the southeastern us, they will most likely use southern yellow pine) ... either way it has to meet minimum standards for veneer quality and properties, so it really doesnt matter what type of wood it's made from as long as its branded acx.
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                              Check out my Youtube channel for a documentation of my 96 Bayliner restoration:
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                                In my book, if its a member of the pinaceae family, its a pine lol...We get eastern white pine here, which I make pumpkin pine floors out of, real soft, but pretty when finished

                                Home Depot around here uses Arauco ply as its ACX from Radiata Pine....its got a good amount of veneers and is well suited for boats.

                                It runs about 35 a sheet. Im ripping tons of it now, routing T&G and using it on barn ceilings,
                                "We all come from the sea. But we are not all of the sea. Those of us who are, we children of the tides, must return to it again and again."

                                Current Boats
                                10' tin gamefisher/Johnson 7.5hp ob
                                1991 Sea Ray 170br/AlphaMerc
                                1996 Century 1800 CC/Yamaha c85
                                1988 Imperial 280SF (under the knife)
                                1972 Checkmate mx-15

                                https://forums.iboats.com/boat-restor...cs-598307.html

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