thanks for all the responses, Don what info!!! are you saying if my 460 coupler goes i've had it or that I'll need a different Volvo to 460 coupler that doesn't exist anymore. Also checked with iboats on the rebuilt KC drive referenced and its lower unit only. I'm dust on the entire wet side of the transom. Would jump all over the volvo dp conversion if I knew what to do about the coupler deal. Bravo has an internal water pump wonder what issues would surface if I headed down that path? Thanks again guy's, you've been incredibly helpful.