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    Default Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    I boat a boat and a trailer. They have not been on the road or the water since 97 and, I need to register the trailer with a PA title. The previous title was lost. Also there are no serial numbers on the trailer. How do I go about registering it?

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    You mean without perjuring yourself?

    Have the previous owner apply for a replacement title.

    If there's anything else that's legal I don't know it.
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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    i did this with my old treailer sey that its home made. all i had 2 do was go 2 the dmv with the treailer get them 2 check it out and u get a pink slip. pretty easy and if u do have a license plat throw it away bechase they will charge every year it wasnt rejisterd comes out 2 a lot of money if u dont...

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by ebentraywick View Post
    i did this with my old treailer sey that its home made. all i had 2 do was go 2 the dmv with the treailer get them 2 check it out and u get a pink slip. pretty easy and if u do have a license plat throw it away bechase they will charge every year it wasnt rejisterd comes out 2 a lot of money if u dont...
    Was this recently?

    Or is it really that easy in Cali?
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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    In Florida, if you can show the last registration, or even have the last tag # that was on there, they should be able to verify what the vin # is. Then you can make your own ID plate with said vin # punched on it, and mount it.

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by HappierWet View Post
    Was this recently?

    Or is it really that easy in Cali?
    In NC this is also fairly common (although alot of times it depends on the Highyway patrol man that has to (legally) "inspect" the trailer), alot of times this just means watching you stamp the vin # they assign you on the tounge.

    I have taken (an obviously factory built trailer) that I had to replace the tounge on and called it homebuilt (it passed and they gave me a title).


    Also (while not the legal way to do it), if the trailer has NO #'s on it, if you own another trailer you could use it's regestration/tag when you tow the boat... Again, this is NOT a legal way to do it.

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    Register as homebuilt... they will give you a VIN for it...

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    In Ohio all they need is a weight slip. I have a friend that used his old trailer's slip (after he sold the trailer) to get tags for his new trailer cuz he didn't want to go through the hassle of unloading boat (& keeping it safe), driving to scale & picking boat back up. This guy been using it for years, the state just wants their money.

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    yep it is.. cost me 45 dollars 4 the pink slip and tags and 40 for the plates

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    In Illinois, I simply took off any decals of the name brand and then registered it as homebuilt. They then assigned a VIN number that you stick onto the trailer. If it is under 3000 lb load capacity, they don't even check it. Over 3000 pounds you have to get it inspected.

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    Trailers without titles or home made trailers are a PITA in PA.
    You can either treat it as homemade; http://www.dmv.org/pa-pennsylvania/o...f-vehicles.php, or go over to NJ and register is there. NJ will assign it a VIN # and issue a title as homemade without a ton of BS. When I lived in PA I did it all the time. If they ask, just say you plan to fish or boat in NJ. Either way it gets you a legal tag.

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    [QUOTE=reelfishin;2379148]Trailers without titles or home made trailers are a PITA in PA.QUOTE]

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    if u try to register it in pa as a homemade make u may have to take it to a special inspection station, take pictures etc. like they said a real pita in pa.
    all axels need breaks if (i think) over 3000lbs.

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    I live in Pa , and yes , its a PITA. I posted an ad on Craigs list for broken down trailer with Pa title....offered $25.00 and removal. Got a reply about a broken down trailer , offered the guy $25.00 and cut his rusty old trailer up in 1/2 an hour and he handed me the signed title... good enough for me....
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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    Thanks for the advice. I figured I would have to register as homemade. It is for over 3,000 and does have breaks on the axles.

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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Stachi View Post
    I live in Pa , and yes , its a PITA. I posted an ad on Craigs list for broken down trailer with Pa title....offered $25.00 and removal. Got a reply about a broken down trailer , offered the guy $25.00 and cut his rusty old trailer up in 1/2 an hour and he handed me the signed title... good enough for me....
    I like that idea although I know tampering with a vin is a felony.....even on a trailer.
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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    not exactly tampering with the vin,...I'll agree its a bit shady....but its done more often than you may think here in PA...
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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    I just had this prob with my escort trailor. im mass if you register it as a trailor under 3000lbs you do not need a title even if it was titled already and has aq outstanding title. Or if you say it was bout in NH which does not need a vin or title you are all set depending where you live. My boss buys and sells boats constantly and every trailor he says he got from NH.
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    Default Re: Registering a trailer without serial numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by HappierWet View Post
    I like that idea although I know tampering with a vin is a felony.....even on a trailer.
    Correct, but the way PA DMV laws are on homemade trailers, they force many of us to become felons. So many states have such simple homemade trailer laws, why not in PA? His best bet is to just run over to NJ and register it, he can register it as a PA resident as a homemade trailer with no problem. If they do ask, but I doubt they will, just say you boat in NJ.

    I've been through this over and over with PA trailers. There is a way to get a new VIN but it requires an inspection of the trailer and some money.
    If it were me, I'd buy a junk trailer, use it's title, or just register it out of state.
    Here in NJ, I'd venture to guess that more than half of the trailers on the road are registered as home made with no VIN. They assign it a new VIN at the time of registration, most people just register one trailer as home made and use the tag on any trailer. Right or wrong, it works, and anyhow, it's just a trailer. There's probably just as many people here running around with no tags or long expired tags. They just don't bother to check. I towed one trailer for years before finally renewing the tag, it was over 10 years out of date, I got pulled over several times, only once did I have an officer say that I'd best get that trailer renewed, the tags are expired.

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