johnson 1999 & 2000 225 Ficht outboard trouble

jockdoc

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I'm looking for some help in regards to avoiding future problems with a Johnson 2000 225 Ficht outboard. I run it on a 22' Grady-White cuddy. <br />My problems began when I bought a new 1999 model Johnson ficht outboard three years ago. My best friend was a dealer here in town, and we broke this motor and eventually each sucessive motor in carefully over a 30-40 hour period. <br /> The first motor lasted only 50-55 hours and scalded a piston. We sent it to the Johnson factory and the Johnson people felt that there was a computer malfunction-- the computer was fixed and the engine rebuilt, only to scald the same piston again within 25 hours of use.<br /> At that time, my buddy was having problems in his dealership with all his new ficht motors in the 225 range, and finally, when OMC went bankrupt, unfortunately, his business went under as well. He had 5 johnson 2000 ficht motors left that he felt he couldn't in good conscience sell because of all the problems, so he kept them to try to use as replacements for us and for his extended family and friends in the immediate future. OMC, of course, washed their hands of me and my 1999 motor when they went out of business. <br /> We replaced my 1999 with a 2000 that had supposedly been broken in for over 50 hours with no problems. We scalded a piston (it seems always the same one-- left lower bank, port side) within 40 hours of use. <br /> We kept the foot of this motor, and replaced the engine with one of the spares.<br /> So now I'm essentially on my 4th motor in under 3 years, and as you might guess, I'm antsy each time we go out. The last time we used the engine, the engine warning light went on only when we put it in neutral- my friend's mechanic felt it might have been that we weren't firmly pushing the motor into neutral each time we came up to the dock, and this caused the light to go on because he felt we might have eased the motor into neutral. He'll be connecting it up to his computer to evaluate the situation next week. He also has noted that Bombardier has updated at least once or twice the uplift pump on their 2003 models as compared to the one on mine, and he's suggested putting in a new one to see if it will prevent running the motor too lean, and possibly avoid another scalding.<br /> I'm ready to throw up my hands and buy a Yammie-- I actually would, but my friend has been standing by me with these remaining motors.<br /> I know it's almost comical-- be gentle-- any suggestions? Has this been a common problem with this vintage of motor? Thanks for any help/advise! -jockdoc
 

rickdb1boat

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Re: johnson 1999 & 2000 225 Ficht outboard trouble

Yes, it has been a problem, along with others, that led to the demise of OMC. Unfortunatly, you got caught in the middle of a bad situation. The newer models are very good. So don't discount the bombardier models out if you buy new. Evinrude has a 7 year warranty on there motors...
 

jockdoc

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Re: johnson 1999 & 2000 225 Ficht outboard trouble

thanks, Rick-- any suggestions on my situation now? Any propholactic fixes out there that I should try? More oil into the gas tank with each fillop, etc.?
 

seahorse5

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Re: johnson 1999 & 2000 225 Ficht outboard trouble

The troublesome motors were the 1998-99 150's and 175's. The big block 200-225 and later 250 did not have the problems like the smaller ones.<br /><br />When Bombardier took over back in 2001, the covered factory warranties for the 2000 and the 2001 motors.<br /><br />Since you wrote about multiple problems with cylinder #6, there is probably an underlying problem that is not engine related. Most re-occuring failures are due to the boat's fuel system. A test with a vacuum gauge and a length of clear fuel line, per the service manual, will tell if the fuel supply and plumbing is adequate. <br /><br />You may also have some type of water ingestion problem which will give the same problems. Those motors did not have a history of piston failures. <br /><br />There was a change in the very very early 1999 fuel pump due to the vendor's problem (Carter), but none since.
 
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