1996 Johnson 115 Smoke from the regulator/rectifier

ejstave

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We were in Canada this week, and the Regulator/rectifier just started smoking as we were fishing with the motor off. We disconnected the battery and it stopped. Wondering where to start troubleshooting this? I can easily replace it, but wondering what may have caused it. I would hate to spend $200 on an new one and burn that one up too.
 

schematic

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Re: 1996 Johnson 115 Smoke from the regulator/rectifier

electronics do fail. reversing battery leads kills them as well
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 1996 Johnson 115 Smoke from the regulator/rectifier

Did your tachometer quit working properly some time back?
 

ejstave

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Re: 1996 Johnson 115 Smoke from the regulator/rectifier

The battery leads were on the correct terminals and the Tachometer was working fine.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 1996 Johnson 115 Smoke from the regulator/rectifier

Strange..... normally when the voltage regulator/rectifier shorts out in any manner, the tachometer acts up or quits working altogether.

If you're owned the engine for some time and no electrical work has been performed that may have interfered with the regulator/rectifier assembly, I would assume that the regulator/rectifier has simply failed and requires replacing. If, on the other hand some electrical work was performed, that should certainly be double checked.

Voltage, unfortunately, is applied to that unit whether the ignition key is turned on or not.

At any rate, the unit must be replaced as the alternative would result in an expensive fire. The following is why I asked about the tachometer.

(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)

A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those water cooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35 ampere charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.

NOTE: For the later models that DO NOT incorporate a wiring terminal strip, splicing into the "Yellow Wire" mentioned will be necessary.

Remove that gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficient way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disastrous consequences.

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Makes me wonder if someone was aware of the regulator/rectifier problem and had the tachometer permanently wired up in the above test fashion.
 

boobie

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Re: 1996 Johnson 115 Smoke from the regulator/rectifier

Back in '96 OMC had probs with those regulators doing that. After that they changed the design. The newer ones should not have fins on it but little poles that come out of the bottom of it that go into the cooling system on the top of the block where it mounts.
 

emdsapmgr

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Re: 1996 Johnson 115 Smoke from the regulator/rectifier

Were the main engine cables both really tight on the battery poles?
 
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