Sorry this is long, trying too make myself clear on all history and issues regarding my trailer
My old steel boat trailer was unsafe. JUNKED IT
Located a 2006 aluminum float on ez loader duel axle 4 wheel, oil bath , drum surge brake system
Seller wanted it gone. Seller complained that wheels were locking at times,
Up inspection found reason for binding wheels, broken brake pads in drums stopping wheels from turning.
Going too my local trailer store.
They did not sell pads only complete set ups all ready mounted onto plate, this way all I had too do was bolt onto axle. Was costly changed all 4 wheels.
Fast forward two years later.
Surge brake actuator started making very loud banging noises, So loud that the noise got the attention of others?
One trip out had no trailer brakes. CHecking no brake fluid.
On this surge system bleeding was easy, whole on top, able too stick a screw driver into whole and pump away.
Filled brake fluid. I pumped away, hearing fluids going into system.
THen I noticed why I had no fluids. a pin whole in brake line, fluid was leaking all over aluminum trailer rail.
Cut out rusted area, installed new section of brake line, got crimping tool from auto zone.
No more leaks, but there must be air in lines.
Surge system was 7 years old and all reports say it costs more too fix and easier too purchase another .
Once I took actuator off, parts from unit fell apart, No idea what was wrong and the loud banging I guess it was a good thing I removed.
I had an older almost new Titan model 60 surge brake actuator which I had just installed on the trailer I junked. Prior too junking trailer I removed and saved
Installing Titan was easy, no new wholes were need. filled with brake fluid , taking for ride great no more banging noises, but had no trailer brakes.
Thinking I proberly had air in lines
Going on line it shows the Titan model 60 requires a 2/4 and safety chains too bleed ? Tried doing this, was slow, a royal pain in the neck, and not sure if fluids were pumping thru. I am using 2/4 too push in and a screw driver too push out?
Very slow process.
Calling trailer shop, he said bring it over, can take a fast look and bleed .
Once I got there I told him on two wheels, not on same axels, but on opposite axles and sides of trailer, hubs and drums were very hot too touch, other 2 wheels were cool. ?
He stated my actuator is working. ( he new just by looking ??? ) he was not charging me and just listend
As stated earlier hubs have oil bath systems.
He said bleeding might make brakes too hard causing them too smoke and lock up. He advised me not too bleed until
I checked drums.
Being I do most of my own work ( or try ) he said take trailer home, take off wheels , check drums
He did state he hates drum brakes, best too replace with disk , expensive. So live with what I got.
I took off only one wheel, ( one of the wheels that was hot)
.
Surprise, The pads were new, which means after install years ago they were never working ,
I am assuming getting very hot too touch drums are binding too drums, ?
I have not gotten too the other wheels yet
I live in Fl and have soft sand were I park trailer.
Seems when I start too go I always thought one of the wheels were locking causing at times wheel too dig into sand.
At times I dug into sand like in snow, wheels dig into soft sand, I have 4/4 and ususally able too get out .
I since put rocks in area were rear wheels are, this way it does not dig into sand. Seem too help
Boat is tight next too a fence and not easy seen only from side mirrors. Seems once I get going its fine.
I assume all issues are related, and once fixed all wheel related issues will go away.
Finally my question
I see on line Titan 60 models bleeding is done with chains not as easy as sticking a screw driver into unit and pump away ?
I tried using chains, and a royal pain .very slow process, push in with 2/4 push out with a bar,
Is there any other way , faster so I can hear the unit pumping away , get fluids pumping and then get the extra set of hands too finish the job
Sould I loosen drum so its not tight when installing drum and then tighten so it just slowly slows down wheel
How does one know if drums are working on all wheels ?
Do I work one side at a time, removing 2 wheels, and pumping away, but how can one easily pump away on this Titan?
thank ya
My old steel boat trailer was unsafe. JUNKED IT
Located a 2006 aluminum float on ez loader duel axle 4 wheel, oil bath , drum surge brake system
Seller wanted it gone. Seller complained that wheels were locking at times,
Up inspection found reason for binding wheels, broken brake pads in drums stopping wheels from turning.
Going too my local trailer store.
They did not sell pads only complete set ups all ready mounted onto plate, this way all I had too do was bolt onto axle. Was costly changed all 4 wheels.
Fast forward two years later.
Surge brake actuator started making very loud banging noises, So loud that the noise got the attention of others?
One trip out had no trailer brakes. CHecking no brake fluid.
On this surge system bleeding was easy, whole on top, able too stick a screw driver into whole and pump away.
Filled brake fluid. I pumped away, hearing fluids going into system.
THen I noticed why I had no fluids. a pin whole in brake line, fluid was leaking all over aluminum trailer rail.
Cut out rusted area, installed new section of brake line, got crimping tool from auto zone.
No more leaks, but there must be air in lines.
Surge system was 7 years old and all reports say it costs more too fix and easier too purchase another .
Once I took actuator off, parts from unit fell apart, No idea what was wrong and the loud banging I guess it was a good thing I removed.
I had an older almost new Titan model 60 surge brake actuator which I had just installed on the trailer I junked. Prior too junking trailer I removed and saved
Installing Titan was easy, no new wholes were need. filled with brake fluid , taking for ride great no more banging noises, but had no trailer brakes.
Thinking I proberly had air in lines
Going on line it shows the Titan model 60 requires a 2/4 and safety chains too bleed ? Tried doing this, was slow, a royal pain in the neck, and not sure if fluids were pumping thru. I am using 2/4 too push in and a screw driver too push out?
Very slow process.
Calling trailer shop, he said bring it over, can take a fast look and bleed .
Once I got there I told him on two wheels, not on same axels, but on opposite axles and sides of trailer, hubs and drums were very hot too touch, other 2 wheels were cool. ?
He stated my actuator is working. ( he new just by looking ??? ) he was not charging me and just listend
As stated earlier hubs have oil bath systems.
He said bleeding might make brakes too hard causing them too smoke and lock up. He advised me not too bleed until
I checked drums.
Being I do most of my own work ( or try ) he said take trailer home, take off wheels , check drums
He did state he hates drum brakes, best too replace with disk , expensive. So live with what I got.
I took off only one wheel, ( one of the wheels that was hot)
.
Surprise, The pads were new, which means after install years ago they were never working ,
I am assuming getting very hot too touch drums are binding too drums, ?
I have not gotten too the other wheels yet
I live in Fl and have soft sand were I park trailer.
Seems when I start too go I always thought one of the wheels were locking causing at times wheel too dig into sand.
At times I dug into sand like in snow, wheels dig into soft sand, I have 4/4 and ususally able too get out .
I since put rocks in area were rear wheels are, this way it does not dig into sand. Seem too help
Boat is tight next too a fence and not easy seen only from side mirrors. Seems once I get going its fine.
I assume all issues are related, and once fixed all wheel related issues will go away.
Finally my question
I see on line Titan 60 models bleeding is done with chains not as easy as sticking a screw driver into unit and pump away ?
I tried using chains, and a royal pain .very slow process, push in with 2/4 push out with a bar,
Is there any other way , faster so I can hear the unit pumping away , get fluids pumping and then get the extra set of hands too finish the job
Sould I loosen drum so its not tight when installing drum and then tighten so it just slowly slows down wheel
How does one know if drums are working on all wheels ?
Do I work one side at a time, removing 2 wheels, and pumping away, but how can one easily pump away on this Titan?
thank ya
