Some background. I just completed major (for me) work - exhaust manifolds, plugs, wires, fluid, filters, etc. Included was a new seawater pump impeller. Pump worked fine before performing any of this work. I read on the forum that the seawater pump was self priming so instead of struggling to get muffs on (pain in butt to get too when boat is on my lift), I lowered it into the water and fired it up. Started right away and idled smoothly with no odd sounds. I started checking for leaks and found none, however, when I peeked at the temp gauge it was not moving. Sitting about 80 deg which was ambient temp. I felt the manifolds and exhaust elbows and temp was rising but not uncomfortable to touch. I then touched the seawater pump and it was hot. So I scrambled out of the engine compartment and shut her down. Not sure of exact time but it was running for over a minute.
I raised the boat out of the water. I now suspected I had destroyed the impeller. Popped open the seawater pump and was pleasantly surprise to see that it appeared OK. (Maybe all that lube I used to get it into the housing gave me a larger margin for error.) Photo of new (left) and one I had replaced (right). Also shot from the side to show they are same height which apparently was/is an issue related to this problem.
Unfortunately, with the boat in the water I could not see if water had actually coming out the drive ports (lesson learned for next time). Remounted the pump and decided to get the muffs on for one more test to see if water emerged. Only ran for 30 seconds. No water. Shut it down. Started process of elimination.
1. Removed pump and inspected impeller and o-ring. All seated properly and in accordance with manual.
2. Ran water through muffs and got good flow out of the pump inlet hose into the bilge; (Ran water back down through the inlet hose to the outdrive - redundant but wanted to get a good flush in both directions). Seems to eliminate the possible "constriction of the plastic fitting inside the outdrive snake neck hose" problem I have read about.
3. Rigged up a garden hose to the pump outlet hose and ran water through the engine. it emerged from the outdrive ports in a few seconds. Good flow so doesn't appear any blockage there.
So seems the pump with new impeller is the problem. (I know I could have installed the old impeller and tried again or connected a clear hose to the pump output and measured flow, if any, but I was beat so decided to try to get more info before taking those steps.)
I took the pump to my parts shop and they mentioned a problem with worn face plates such that when a new impeller is installed, there is sufficient clearance within the wear grooves to prevent the pump from priming and moving water. He showed me two such pumps and said mine appears to have this problem. I asked why it worked with old impeller and not new and he said Mercruiser Techs told them the old impellers were swelling to fill the void but the new one would not.
Here are a couple photos of my pump:
So my questions (finally!)
1. Is what the parts guy said true regarding old vs new impellers and this pump wear issue.
2. Is this pump bad (it's a 2003)
3. Are pump rebuild kits such as this one water_pump_kit worth it or should I just get a new pump.
Small apology for lengthy post. I know I could have just put the pump photos up and asked if it was bad but thought the background might help another amateur such as myself who encounters this issue. Thanks in advance for your help.
Location - St Petersburg, FL
Boat - 2003 Sea Ray 260 Sundancer
Engine - Mercruiser 350 Magnum MPI Bravo III
Engine Serial Number - OM632029
I raised the boat out of the water. I now suspected I had destroyed the impeller. Popped open the seawater pump and was pleasantly surprise to see that it appeared OK. (Maybe all that lube I used to get it into the housing gave me a larger margin for error.) Photo of new (left) and one I had replaced (right). Also shot from the side to show they are same height which apparently was/is an issue related to this problem.
Unfortunately, with the boat in the water I could not see if water had actually coming out the drive ports (lesson learned for next time). Remounted the pump and decided to get the muffs on for one more test to see if water emerged. Only ran for 30 seconds. No water. Shut it down. Started process of elimination.
1. Removed pump and inspected impeller and o-ring. All seated properly and in accordance with manual.
2. Ran water through muffs and got good flow out of the pump inlet hose into the bilge; (Ran water back down through the inlet hose to the outdrive - redundant but wanted to get a good flush in both directions). Seems to eliminate the possible "constriction of the plastic fitting inside the outdrive snake neck hose" problem I have read about.
3. Rigged up a garden hose to the pump outlet hose and ran water through the engine. it emerged from the outdrive ports in a few seconds. Good flow so doesn't appear any blockage there.
So seems the pump with new impeller is the problem. (I know I could have installed the old impeller and tried again or connected a clear hose to the pump output and measured flow, if any, but I was beat so decided to try to get more info before taking those steps.)
I took the pump to my parts shop and they mentioned a problem with worn face plates such that when a new impeller is installed, there is sufficient clearance within the wear grooves to prevent the pump from priming and moving water. He showed me two such pumps and said mine appears to have this problem. I asked why it worked with old impeller and not new and he said Mercruiser Techs told them the old impellers were swelling to fill the void but the new one would not.
Here are a couple photos of my pump:
So my questions (finally!)
1. Is what the parts guy said true regarding old vs new impellers and this pump wear issue.
2. Is this pump bad (it's a 2003)
3. Are pump rebuild kits such as this one water_pump_kit worth it or should I just get a new pump.
Small apology for lengthy post. I know I could have just put the pump photos up and asked if it was bad but thought the background might help another amateur such as myself who encounters this issue. Thanks in advance for your help.
Location - St Petersburg, FL
Boat - 2003 Sea Ray 260 Sundancer
Engine - Mercruiser 350 Magnum MPI Bravo III
Engine Serial Number - OM632029