New 50HP EFI Bigfoot RPM/Speed issues

drp5862

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First post, lots of good info here :)

Brand new Mercury 50BigfootEFI, 22' pontoon. Took it to marina for 20hr maint/check as per dealer/Mercury. All good, mechanic thought to much play on propeller (forward/backwards), nut would not tighten up more, removed FlowTorque III assembly and installed FlowTorque II. Nut tightened up more, less play. I questioned this, appeared shorter than the original III assembly. Ok I was told. I noticed less speed on the boat almost immediately, shrugged it off to wind/water. Used to do 20mph pretty consistent, depending wind, waves, trim etc. Actually I just trimmed the motor up a bit a bit so it was not metal/metal. Now max is usually 17-18mph, and that's with the trim up maybe ?. This is all gps reading btw. Being a new boat owner (my first), I honestly never payed much attention to the tach. So I'm not sure what it was reading at WOT before, but now it's like 4500rpm, 17/18mph. I can only assume it was higher before. I took it back after a couple weeks later. Mentioned the loss of speed, asked if the II vs III assembly could do that, probably not, they had the original III, put it back on, no change. The prop nut was a REAL pain to remove I might add, I watched, last time it came of real easy. I'm taking it in again to have it checked further but....

Are these flow torque assemblies interchangeable?
By pulling the prop tighter, less play, restricting (blocking??) the exhaust, have they ruined my motor?
Any ideas why i would lose 1000 rpm (if it was actually at 5500) just like that, and 3 mph?
Prop is 14" 11P.. no need to change it boat ran fine before
Could all be coincidence

Boat sounds fine, starts fine, runs fine.... just loss of some speed and rpm it seems
Just looking for ideas to question shop about, as a lot is new to me. I know the rpm needs to be in the 5500-6000 range now. One bad plug/cylinder cause this? Could be as simple as a wire off ?

Things not even 3 months old yet :( Just want some ideas/exp before i accuse someone of messing my motor up. Of course they will say they didnt casue it by the change of hubs
 

drp5862

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Re: New 50HP EFI Bigfoot RPM/Speed issues

any thoughts? hoping to drop if off before weekend
 

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Re: New 50HP EFI Bigfoot RPM/Speed issues

Did they change the prop? Are you sure ?

Dave
 

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Re: New 50HP EFI Bigfoot RPM/Speed issues

The changes they made did not damage the engine and very likely has nothing to do with the loss of rpm. Removing a bit of clearance would occur outside the prop, not inside since the prop is snugged up against a thrust washer. You have nothing to go on from before other than speed since you did not pay attention to the tach. You should check the bottom of the boat to ensure nothing is dragging in the water that would limit its speed. A 50 HP on a 22 foot toon should probably have a 14 x 9P prop.
 

drp5862

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Re: New 50HP EFI Bigfoot RPM/Speed issues

Thanks guys :)

No, original prop is on there, I watched all this happen. I'm told its a 14" 11P, and its a 3 blade

The dealer says it was running up in the 5000 range, and htey never would have l;et it go out if it was only around 4500rpm. Same boat as mine 2 weeks old, at their marina is running 5500rpm 20mph, same setup. They tried a 9P on it as a test, and it redlined and as soon as it was trimmed up, it blows out is the term they used.

Ok thats a relief they havent fked the motor.

The marina are gonna hook it on the laptop, see whats going on this visit. Software should be able to tell you how many hours in certain rpm range? Then I would know if it was ever set up right and running at manuf specs....

They did say the dealer is also sending a 4 blade prop also, same pitch and size, i looked it up its certainly a more pricier prop, my comment was why would i need a new prop when the same boat is running fine, mine supposedly did... sounds like a motor issue

Some oil split changing the filter, when wiping it up possible a wire got pulled? would i know if it was running on only 3 cylinders? Sounds fine... could it be that simple?

I'll take a look underneath this weekend, possible something got bent up wen they pulled it out of the water i suppose

-check for drag underneath
-verify by laptop boat was running at full rpm before
-check for all cylinders
-why change prop...

do i want a 4 blade?? spitfire series

any other thoughts?

thanks for feedback
 
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