Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

patalbcas

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Thunderbolt 4 ing no spark.
new plugs ,wires,coil,module.dissconected tach and shift cut out switch. spark during test jumps from neg coil too center tower 12 volts at pos coil and dist.
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Don S

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

Follow this chart to find the problem.

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patalbcas

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

Follow this chart to find the problem.

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Thanks for your reply
I did this check and when i tap the wire i get spark from neg coil term to center coil post, nothing at spark tester.
I am usein a ground from battery during test. why is spark jumping on coil?
Pat
 

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

Could be a bad coil wire. The one from the center of the coil that you have going to the spark tester. You do have your spark tester hooked to a good clean ground don't you?
 

patalbcas

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

Could be a bad coil wire. The one from the center of the coil that you have going to the spark tester. You do have your spark tester hooked to a good clean ground don't you?

I have tryed the new coil wire and a spare i bought and yes using ground from battery for spark test
 

patalbcas

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

Could be a bad coil wire. The one from the center of the coil that you have going to the spark tester. You do have your spark tester hooked to a good clean ground don't you?

could it be a bad distributer sensor?
 

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

Did it lose spark for no apparent reason, or was it after you replaced these things?
 

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

Are you cranking it from the dash? Pull the cannon plug & try hot wiring it.
 

patalbcas

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

The boat was running fine on;y would backfire through the carb after 20 mins of cruising.
so I thought the coil was failing after it got hot so I changed that and motor ran very rough at start up.
so I changed the plugs and wires and rebuilt the carb, added fresh gas and fuel filters.Then when I tryed starting it ,no spark.
so I used the chart to test ign system and thought I had a bad module/amp,replaced that and dissconected the tach and shift cutout switch. used a ground from the battery and retested,still the only spark I get is from neg term on coil to center post.
Buying a new meter today to make sure I am getting a full 12v to coil, I had a cheap meter that was hard to read. Maybe I'm only getting 10 v to coil?
Pat
 

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

Is it the right coil?, not sure but I know there are resistor and non resistor wire coils and stuff.....I'll probably need to figure this out someday since I too have a T-IV system on mine
 

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

If its jumping from neg to center terminal on coil, then that is the path of least resistance. Posible crack in the coil tower? Missing/bad rotor? Cap needs replaced? Rotor button broken/missing? Coil wire(distribution wire)then high resistance/bad end/wrong style end? If the coil is arching to negative with the coil wire on, then you need to look for cracks, clean, and use dielectric grease and retest.
 

patalbcas

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

Yes it the correct coil for an HEI system and yes they are diffrent.
 

patalbcas

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

Coil is brand new but I did inspect and put the dielectric grease on it, I am not turning motor over during spark test so cap/rotor/sensor not an issue, just trying to get spark to tester from the distributor wire to ground as discribed in the flow chart
 

patalbcas

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

I just read that you can fix a hairline coil crack with nail polish,is this true?
 

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Re: Thunderbolt 4 no spark Baffled

Doesn't make any difference if he fixed his or not, the cause of his problem may not be what is causing your problem.

Best to start a new thread of your own, with your problems, and your engine information. Then you will receive answers to Your problem.
 
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